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Old 20-12-10, 02:47 PM   #11
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but this may mean more test centers reopening which cant be a bad thing
the problem was the new test cabable centers werent ready in time so now they dont have to build them ,its nowt to do with the fairness of the test or people having to go 50 mile to there nearest test center its simply a money saving exercise

and i wont comment on which test i prefer as i have a full licence so dont care
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Old 20-12-10, 02:53 PM   #12
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but this may mean more test centers reopening which cant be a bad thing

It can be a bad thing, because a little over a year ago they closed down hundreds of test centres and sold off the property portfolio at rock bottom prices.

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Old 20-12-10, 02:53 PM   #13
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the new test was easy enough to pass, to make it harder why not reduce the number of the minors you can get from 15 to 10 or something or even lower
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but this may mean more test centers reopening which cant be a bad thing
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It can be a bad thing, because a little over a year ago they closed down hundreds of test centres and sold off the property portfolio at rock bottom prices.
Point taken, but surely it's better that there's more test centres. Continuing with the wrong policy just 'cos that's how it is now isn't right.
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Old 20-12-10, 03:10 PM   #15
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True.

Point taken, but surely it's better that there's more test centres. Continuing with the wrong policy just 'cos that's how it is now isn't right.
I completely agree, it's just a bonkers situation that's all. There was nothing wrong with the old system in my eyes, and the new system was implemented for no reason and very badly.

It just a crazy F up when you think about it.

Spending £77m for no reason, closing down and selling lots of perfectly good test centres, lots of instructors/examiners fhaving to moving location or loosing their jobs.

All for now real reason that I can see.
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Stuff.
All true, wasn't meaning to disagree with you. Sorry if it read like that.
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Old 20-12-10, 03:24 PM   #17
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I did my test in October and I agree with what's been said. If you cant manage a 31mph swerve on high grip tarmac with nothing but cones to hit then..
A) you need more practice
B) a powerful machine really is not for you.

I did mine in the rain and still sailed through at 55kph.
The issue with the serve test is with 125's getting to speed. But I agree with you and disagree due to the running of the test for 125cc. Tried it on a service yard on a 125 and its bloody hard to get to 31 mph on one

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the new test was easy enough to pass, to make it harder why not reduce the number of the minors you can get from 15 to 10 or something or even lower
That should be done to the A and B tests as I got 1 minor on a 45 min test for the bike, and 4 doing the car test.
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I'll believe it when I see it from a source other than MCN.
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I'll believe it when I see it from a source other than MCN.
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Info from the BMF.



The British
Motorcyclists Federation have welcomed today’s publication of a report into
motorcycle licence testing that takes on board many of the comments made by
experienced professionals in the field of motorcycle training, but say action is
now urgently needed to improve the state of the current testing regime.






The report,
from Mike Penning, the
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport, is a result of the
review he set up in June this year into the
controversial
motorcycle test procedure currently imposed on British
motorcycling*.






The bmf,
forming part of the working group alongside other members of the motorcycle
industry, trainers, riders’ representatives, road safety, local authority bodies
and DSA and DfT officials, say that the review has served its purpose in
identifying changes to the test which should, if adopted, dramatically improve
the current dire situation whereby many candidates have had to travel excessive
distances to special off-road centres and then undertake controversial test
manoeuvres
.





Mr. Penning has said
that “he wants to see the practical test delivered as a single on-road event in
a way which will maintain riding standards, protect safety and increase
accessibility of the test to all candidates,” a statement that the bmf
wholeheartedly concurs with.






A critic of the need
for the off-road testing centres from the beginning, the bmf say that the new
measures, if adopted, could now include a new hazard avoidance manoeuvre as well
as ways to perform the other specified manoeuvres which, subject to trialling,
could be carried out on the road. The review says other manoeuvres could be
examined at training centres ahead of the main test, followed by a single event
on road test conducted by DSA.






Now to be trialled
with test-level candidates used to verify the standards, suitability and safety
of the new procedures, followed by public consultation on the proposed changes,
the bmf supports the measures but says they should be completed
quickly.






Bmf spokesman Jeff
Stone said, “Due credit must go the Mike Penning for delivering on his review,
but the real test will be in implementing the changes.
The aim is for the new
measures and a test by the end of 2011, but it needs to be sooner. We’ve had 18
months experience of the new test (on which the Transport Select Committee have
been highly critical) and it continues to have a devastating effect on
motorcycling so another 12 months is
simply too long to wait


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