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Old 06-01-11, 08:19 PM   #11
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Default Re: What effectively improves front brakes?

The SV is lacking in comparison to a more expensive sports bike,not just in the brakes. ,but remember it is a budget bike and all the higher performance equipment costs money and this is left off to keep the price down. Even standard brakes will toss you over the handlebars.
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Old 06-01-11, 08:20 PM   #12
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Minor derail:

What does changing to braided lines actually do? I know they are better than stock hose as they dont expand. But what is the end material result?

Just curious as I have stock, have thought about braided lines but then put it off becuase stock brakes seem ok to me. Maybe I'm just not knowing what I'm missing?
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Old 06-01-11, 08:49 PM   #13
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Default Re: What effectively improves front brakes?

Better feel, means you can modulate force easily rather than having to move your finger half an inch if you need to back off a bit like when rear starts coming up. Also makes it much easier to get on the brakes quickly.

IMO they are vital.
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Old 06-01-11, 09:28 PM   #14
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Cheers YC.

They just moved further up my wishlist!
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Old 06-01-11, 09:49 PM   #15
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Cheers YC.

They just moved further up my wishlist!
they also dont expand as much under hard braking force, where as the rubber ones can expand reducing the pressure that is applied to the pistons
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Old 06-01-11, 10:07 PM   #16
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Yeah I knew that bit, just didnt fully understand the practical effects. I always just knew it was "better"
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Old 06-01-11, 11:38 PM   #17
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When I ride a bike without braided hoses now they just feel a bit wierd and spongy. For £40 they are well worth it.
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Old 06-01-11, 11:45 PM   #18
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When I ride a bike without braided hoses now they just feel a bit wierd and spongy. For £40 they are well worth it.
Now this is going to sound errr funny but I actually don't mind rubber hoses(prefer even )

Braided hoses are in some ways over rated. OE lines are of course very expensive so makes sense to replace with braided lines once it's time to replace them.

You say "weird and spongy", I say "great feel"
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Old 07-01-11, 12:11 AM   #19
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What does changing to braided lines actually do?
More of the effort that you expend in pulling the lever is passed into making the pads press on the disc. But see below:
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I know they are better than stock hose as they dont expand.
Yes they do, just rather less, and if your standard lines are in good condition they don't expand appreciably either.
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But what is the end material result? Just curious as I have stock, have thought about braided lines but then put it off becuase stock brakes seem ok to me. Maybe I'm just not knowing what I'm missing?
If yours are OK you may not be missing anything.
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More awareness on behalf of the rider
That and pulling the lever harder.

Also stiffer brakes reduce feel they do not improve it, think about this.
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Old 07-01-11, 01:05 AM   #20
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Cant say i noticed any real difference riding a bike before and after braided lines. Serviced and bleed correctly; i think the SV brakes are good, but then im not a fat beast lol.
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