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Old 20-01-11, 09:37 AM   #11
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love it, could i beg a favour, could you explain what the points mean, that way if i come to use the format i can understand it lol

(i know posting this is going to make me look stupid but rather that than lighter in the wallet)
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Old 20-01-11, 09:40 AM   #12
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The local councils in brum now use ball bags to ride around on scooters, feck me it winds me up.
They are attracted to soft target areas but fail to control the real problem areas. just easy pickings.

They do this here in Smudgeland too. Pain in the arris. They started targetting where my parents live, as they have a lot of single lines. Thing is its very residential, and now you can expect for some ass to jump out from the ground and fine you for visiting your parents. The old traffice wardens used to kind of ignore you, as they knew who lived there etc....well the yellow lines have been there for twenty years or so, and my parents only got tickets for parking outside their own house when they first got put there, now they daren't incase someone on a scooter turns up.
Its funny because a local bobby was discussing this a few weeks back, and warned us that the 'contracted out' firm on scooters were very keen to apply tickets....nice fella!
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Old 20-01-11, 09:47 AM   #13
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I am so pleased that all my hard work and It seems to be working!
Next step is to de-register my bike and claim the right to travel, thank god for the Barons and the Magna Carta.

Don't get me wrong I'm not doing this to bring about anarchy but to bring attention to the UK plc that I do not consent to their statutes nor do I stand under their jurisdiction.

really dont know how you could do this. i get the im not a number thing. but once you de register everything how do you travel? get insurance and live?
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Old 20-01-11, 09:49 AM   #14
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Is it possible that rather than accepting your points as correct they have instead simply realised it would be more of an expensive pain in the 'arris to pursue the fine than it was worth?
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Old 20-01-11, 09:50 AM   #15
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maintain my entire body of God given Natural Rights.
Please prove that this "God" exists and provide documentation to prove these "Natural Rights" exist in a form recognised by the Government of this Nation.

Looks to me more that where you parked WASN'T a controlled area so the ticket was cancelled, as you say, bikes are always parked there.

If it IS a controlled parking place, then you got lucky.

We may not like the laws/rules/whatevers, but it is NOT up to us as individuals to decide which do and dont apply to us. If you choose to break a rule, such as speeding, then have the strength to stand up and take it if you are caught.

Or can I just declare that its my Natural Right, by way of being stronger/sneakier/better equipped to go out and take, with force and violence, anything I want, after all, thats what MY God may say is ok?

Ok so some people have found a loophole - fine, go live in a commune by those standards if you wish, but dont complain when society refuses you access to things like street lights, or the police and ambulances stop at the border to your little free country.

Basically there is little, in my opinion, between this and fiddling the dole.
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Old 20-01-11, 09:52 AM   #16
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Civil Enforcement Officer haha, that would just be a tool in a hat then.
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Old 20-01-11, 09:54 AM   #17
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We may not like the laws/rules/whatevers, but it is NOT up to us as individuals to decide which do and dont apply to us. If you choose to break a rule, such as speeding, then have the strength to stand up and take it if you are caught.

Basically there is little, in my opinion, between this and fiddling the dole.
Bullsh*t mate. The whole "take it on the chin" thing is a bag of cr*p thought up by people without the brains to duck, dive and weave in and out of every loophole they can possibly find and apply the logic to decide when or not an attempted defence is likely to land them in more trouble.

I swear to tell the truth, the half truth and nothing like the truth

Traffic wardens are scum set on this earth to inconvenience and annoy. They're barely above the bilge dwelling scamera van operators. Nothing like fiddling the dole.
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Old 20-01-11, 09:58 AM   #18
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Please prove that this "God" exists and provide documentation to prove these "Natural Rights" exist in a form recognised by the Government of this Nation.

We may not like the laws/rules/whatevers, but it is NOT up to us as individuals to decide which do and dont apply to us. If you choose to break a rule, such as speeding, then have the strength to stand up and take it if you are caught.
And on a moral point of view, God given rights perhaps you want to bring that to some atheist argument, that's not really the point, you could equally argue you wanted to safeguard your rights as guaranteed by the Magna Carta or Bill of Rights.

We may not like the laws rules, I disagree with that too, an unjust law is no law at all. This country is/was* becoming a police state and with all legitimate forms of protest removed from us it is every citizens duty to become as much of a pain in the *rse as possible. By resisting the smallest intrusion to liberty you prevent the larger.

*Was definitely going that way under the thinly disguised reds of his tonyness and co. who knows whether that trend will stop or be reversed with this lot.
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Old 20-01-11, 10:01 AM   #19
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i agree its a scary situation we are in at the moment but its a monster of our own manking, well i blame the southerners but thats a different story
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Old 20-01-11, 10:03 AM   #20
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Cheers Smudger

I'm using that to appeal the next one I get!
Already had to pay one in protest for same reasons.
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