Brown, Lockerbie and Libya

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

But he didnt release those grounds for appeal and its been a year or so now.In fact part of the "deal" was he had to drop his pending appeal to get released on compasionate grounds,thereby silencing the "he didnt really do it" brigade.I wonder why.
I remember the time very well,as an American neighbour I knew vaguely cancelled their flight.That flight.

He will still release them. It may not be now, next year or whenever but I am positive the details of his appeal will be released.

The release and the way it has been handled is one of the most shameful and forever tainting marks on the history of the Scottish people-I feel ashamed of the complete handling of the situation from the original trial to the release of Megrahi(sp).
Sometimes in life you need to look at the bigger picture and imoa in this case it would have been better for Scotland and the relatives of those murdered if he died in captivity.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

But he didnt release those grounds for appeal and its been a year or so now.In fact part of the "deal" was he had to drop his pending appeal to get released on compasionate grounds,thereby silencing the "he didnt really do it" brigade.I wonder why.

Entirely agree.

I think that people who think that the price is worth paying for commercial deals and so on have missed the point.

The points that I make are that al-Megrahi remains a convicted murderer. In fact the biggest murderer in UK history. He is out of prison, in Libya, and is still alive when he ought to have died months ago. But the biggest point is that the London liars said that they had no part in his release. But it appears that they gave legal advice to the Libyans on how to procure that release and that they leaned on the Scottish executive. So what else did they do... the trouble with liars is that once someone tells one lie, you can't believe a word they say.

Brown, j'accuse.

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Ed

Incidentally isn't it interesting that this story doesn't appear anywhere on the BBC news website. Not even on the Scotland page. Hmmm, wonder why that might be. Who has leaned on them.

Wait! You're not suggesting the BBC has some sort of bias are you? I'm truly shocked - I can't believe the BBC has a Labour bias, I've also been living down a hole in Lapland for the last fourteen years, therefore I have no knowledge at all of James Naughtie saying; 'if we get back in' instead of 'if Labour get back in'. In recent years the BBC have simply acted disgustingly, there haven't even attempted to hide their Labour sycophancy.
And if you wish to recive any broadcast at all you are forced to pay for it - how very Nu labour.

I would like to pose the following question. and wonder if anyone will care to put a view.
If Ian Brady or Peter Sutcliffe or Peter Tobin or Ian Hunt developed cancer, would there be a public support to have them released on compassionate grounds.

SMcG

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Stephen McG

I would like to pose the following question. and wonder if anyone will care to put a view.
If Ian Brady or Peter Sutcliffe or Peter Tobin or Ian Hunt developed cancer, would there be a public support to have them released on compassionate grounds.

Point well made, however I'm fairly certain some blithering idiot, like George Galloway for instance, would find some enjoyable perversity in championing their cause.

[Messie]

Originally Posted by Ed

Entirely agree.

I think that people who think that the price is worth paying for commercial deals and so on have missed the point.

The points that I make are that al-Megrahi remains a convicted murderer. In fact the biggest murderer in UK history. He is out of prison, in Libya, and is still alive when he ought to have died months ago. But the biggest point is that the London liars said that they had no part in his release. But it appears that they gave legal advice to the Libyans on how to procure that release and that they leaned on the Scottish executive. So what else did they do... the trouble with liars is that once someone tells one lie, you can't believe a word they say.

Brown, j'accuse.

Ed - I don't always agree with your political views, but I think on this one, you are spot on. I appreciate that us general public can't always be made aware of the detail behind some decisions, but this one stinks. And it did from the first moment it became obvious he was going to be let out

[Bri w]

How on earth could we defend the reputation of our country, in a discussion with our cousins, over something like this? Its all well and good saying the politicians did it but they are supposed to be acting on our behalf and for our greater good.

There's very few politicians I'd ..... on if they were on fire.

[punyXpress]

Originally Posted by Stephen McG

I would like to pose the following question. and wonder if anyone will care to put a view.
If Ian Brady or Peter Sutcliffe or Peter Tobin or Ian Hunt developed cancer, would there be a public support to have them released on compassionate grounds.

SMcG

Great train robber Ronnie Biggs managed it