MOD 2 Bike Test

I feel your pain, I passed on my third attempt. Felt very hard done by on previous efforts but I convinced myself they had quotas to hit Good luck next time, just remember to look up the road when turning rather than at the curb.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Stenno

but I convinced myself they had quotas to hit

Big Myth that, they would rather pass you than fail you - MUCH less paperwork on a Pass as they dont have to record EVERY little detail in case of an Appeal.

You were just rubbish

FTR, I was a 3rd time pass as well

To the OP 10" from the kerb is only just out of the gutter, should have been 10" from the center line.

[gruntygiggles]

Ten inches from the right hand kerb? At a t junction? I hope you were on a one way road or your positioning would have put you in the path of anything turning into the road you were on.

Or am I missing something?

Bad luck mate, but 10 days is not long. Try not to be too overconfident. My instructor told me the examiner failed the lad I went to my test with because he was too confident. Too much of a concern and needed to learn he wasn't as good as he thought so they got him on a serious for pulling out in front of someone. Others would have git away with it. Instructor told me that while they stick to the rules...sometimes they see people who they believe will be dead within the year and so they try to knock them back a little so they don't think they are incapable of getting it wrong sometimes. Worth considering.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

sometimes they see people who they believe will be dead within the year and so they try to knock them back a little so they don't think they are incapable of getting it wrong sometimes. Worth considering.

When I did my DAS the option for test day was to do the big bike or the 125 and get a restricted. It was said that the Examiner MAY be more lenient for someone on a 125 than the 500...

[Fallout]

The cynical man in me says he wasn't 100% happy with your ride and he has a 'fail quota', in this harsh economic climate. Absolutely no evidence for that at all, but I enjoy being a grumpy git. Good luck on your next test mate!

[gruntygiggles]

I don't believe there are fail quotas. Training centres rely on their pass rates to continue to attract customers...they would not stand by and allow there to be a fail quota. To have a fail quota would be to open themselves up to constant scrutiny.

If you fail, you have ridden in a manner for all or part of the test that your examiner is not happy with. I don't doubt that every now and then an examiner takes a dislike and judges harshly for no good reason, but you have to, iirc, bring it up then and there.
I am still wondering how that junction worked to be turning right at a t junction but be 10 inches from the right kerb?

[Fallout]

Must've been 1-way out of the junction onto a 2-way road. I agree on the fail quota thing btw. I don't think there is one, but the cynical man in me says the more they fail, the more tests the failed guy has to pay for. Ooooo, them evil examiners and their devious ways.

[gruntygiggles]

Yep...that is what i asked in first response.

To be honest, I cannot fathom why any examiner would say that 10 inches off the right hand kerb puts you too far to the left for a right hand turn. If you got any closer you would be riding through dirt. 10 inches is too close...it puts you in line to ride over drains and manhole covers. So, saying you were too far to the left makes him an idiot examiner in my opinion.

Either that or I have it wrong, but i an just going from what the op has described.

I've got my first and hopefully only mod 2 next week , I will let you know if its quota based when im done . As an aside I got a serious call yesterday from vosa for my pass and failure rates for our testing station so big brother does check and ass kick testers .

The left, right, centre positioning in the road when making turns only applies to a normal two way road. If, as I'm reading it and someone else said, you were pulling out from a one way street then you should have been in the centre of the right hand side of the road, not on the right.

I know cos I passed my mod 2 three weeks ago and this exact thing came up in my training!