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TamSV · 14-02-12, 03:15 PM

The Argentinians ruled out any possibility of taking over the islands when they invaded in 1982 IMO.

Their historical claims are probably as good as the British but there's no moving on from those kind of arguments and no-one can ever "win".

All that stuff has to be left in the past and the only principle that matters now is that the Islanders have the right to determine their own future. With such an aggressive neighbour they're unlikely to choose anything other than continuation as an Overseas Territory for the forseeable future.

It's not up to Britain to "give" the islands to anyone but it does make sense that they become more independent.

14-02-12, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stewie

It's a bit similar to the scots and the welsh hating the English I guess never understood it myself.

I think theyre just jealous......I'll get me coat

You're right but I don't get why, wtf have we got to be jealous of, we aint got nothing

14-02-12, 03:17 PM

Actually I was in Germany when the invasion happened and one the guys came round my room and said 'the argentiinans have invaded the falklands' and I remember thinking what are they doing in Scotland ?

14-02-12, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by specialone

You're right but I don't get why, wtf have we got to be jealous of, we aint got nothing

we got free uni education havent we ? oh........
we got free presciptions too...oh yeah
can't think tbh, what have we got ?

Wideboy · 14-02-12, 03:33 PM

militarize the islands more and make the argies run to the UN crying again. The argument is ridiculous, its no different to sending a destroyer to jersey. They're just still bitter from getting spanked the last time.

It will come to nothing, the argie president is just trying to rake in cheap votes by playing on the gullible argie population's heart strings..... Who are to stupid to see what is happening.

Isn't Argentina's government still massively corrupt anyway?

MisterTommyH · 14-02-12, 03:57 PM

We could also do without idiots like Sean Penn wading in and talking sh1te.

He's a 'UN ambassador at large to Haiti' so how the hell does that give him any qualification to comment on an island that's thousands of miles away from the island he's a fake ambassador to.......

Wideboy · 14-02-12, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy H

We could also do without idiots like Sean Penn wading in and talking sh1te.

He's a 'UN ambassador at large to Haiti' so how the hell does that give him any qualification to comment on an island that's thousands of miles away from the island he's a fake ambassador to.......

Eeugh I read that today also, that **** needs a slap

14-02-12, 04:06 PM

Well I thought people would be a lot less caring about the situation. Good to see.

That Sean Penn is a idiot to get involved. The guy is an actor and is in way qualified to comment in such a public fashion. He supposedly comes from a country that values the democratic process yet completely goes against it by arguing that we should ignore popular demand in the Falklands and force them to be ruled by a government they have no wish to be part of.

Out of interest, what do you think would happen if the Falklands decide they want to be an independent country, do you think Argentina would let that stand?

Fallout · 14-02-12, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Hmmm, offer the people some land up the West Coast of Scotland, well its similarly remote and desolate, then Sell the Falklands to the Argies to reduce some of the National Debt?

The climate is similar too, I think. But whether they could ever get use to the water going the other way round the plug hole, I don't know. Perhaps that's asking too much.

14-02-12, 04:18 PM

If the Falklands went independent Argentina would be in there in a flash, no question, thing is who would bail them out ? the UN ? doubt it, theyre too slow and unwieldly to do much good, the yanks ? no chance, if it doesnt benefit them they won't help, they didnt do too much to help us in 82 at least not overtly anyway, it would probably be left up to us and you can imagine a compromise would be met because we havent even got a hope of going down there and fighting ot out like we did last time, too committed to other things at present, if the Argetinians wanted to invade nows the best time to do it imo, we're still comitted to Afghan, are drawing down regts in Germany, closing down bases in the UK, dont have a credible naval carrier force, don't have nimrods, harriers or the troops, on top of that morale is at an all time low with the threat of redundancy hanging overhead and uncertain futures for all the services, basically we're ****ed.

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14-02-12, 03:15 PM	#11
TamSV Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Troon, Ayrshire Posts: 1,812	Re: The Falklands The Argentinians ruled out any possibility of taking over the islands when they invaded in 1982 IMO. Their historical claims are probably as good as the British but there's no moving on from those kind of arguments and no-one can ever "win". All that stuff has to be left in the past and the only principle that matters now is that the Islanders have the right to determine their own future. With such an aggressive neighbour they're unlikely to choose anything other than continuation as an Overseas Territory for the forseeable future. It's not up to Britain to "give" the islands to anyone but it does make sense that they become more independent.

14-02-12, 03:17 PM	#13
stewie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Falklands Actually I was in Germany when the invasion happened and one the guys came round my room and said 'the argentiinans have invaded the falklands' and I remember thinking what are they doing in Scotland ?

14-02-12, 03:33 PM	#15
Wideboy Evel Knievel Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastleigh Posts: 4,641	Re: The Falklands militarize the islands more and make the argies run to the UN crying again. The argument is ridiculous, its no different to sending a destroyer to jersey. They're just still bitter from getting spanked the last time. It will come to nothing, the argie president is just trying to rake in cheap votes by playing on the gullible argie population's heart strings..... Who are to stupid to see what is happening. Isn't Argentina's government still massively corrupt anyway? __________________ 05 DRZ400E RIP hovis

14-02-12, 03:57 PM	#16
MisterTommyH Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West Mids Posts: 854	Re: The Falklands We could also do without idiots like Sean Penn wading in and talking sh1te. He's a 'UN ambassador at large to Haiti' so how the hell does that give him any qualification to comment on an island that's thousands of miles away from the island he's a fake ambassador to.......

14-02-12, 04:06 PM	#18
ravingdavis Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Falklands Well I thought people would be a lot less caring about the situation. Good to see. That Sean Penn is a idiot to get involved. The guy is an actor and is in way qualified to comment in such a public fashion. He supposedly comes from a country that values the democratic process yet completely goes against it by arguing that we should ignore popular demand in the Falklands and force them to be ruled by a government they have no wish to be part of. Out of interest, what do you think would happen if the Falklands decide they want to be an independent country, do you think Argentina would let that stand?

14-02-12, 04:18 PM	#20
stewie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Falklands If the Falklands went independent Argentina would be in there in a flash, no question, thing is who would bail them out ? the UN ? doubt it, theyre too slow and unwieldly to do much good, the yanks ? no chance, if it doesnt benefit them they won't help, they didnt do too much to help us in 82 at least not overtly anyway, it would probably be left up to us and you can imagine a compromise would be met because we havent even got a hope of going down there and fighting ot out like we did last time, too committed to other things at present, if the Argetinians wanted to invade nows the best time to do it imo, we're still comitted to Afghan, are drawing down regts in Germany, closing down bases in the UK, dont have a credible naval carrier force, don't have nimrods, harriers or the troops, on top of that morale is at an all time low with the threat of redundancy hanging overhead and uncertain futures for all the services, basically we're ****ed.