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Old 16-07-12, 07:38 PM   #11
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I wouldn't count on the public CCTV mate. When I was floored in Wolverhampton a number of years ago the CCTV was conveniently looking the other way. Despite a very good description from my mates and knowing that the idiot would have run right through where the camera was said to have been pointing. Still reported it though. Both because I think these things should go on the stats, and because I needed a crime number as a reason why I had to give my presentation and leave for hospital the next day rather than sitting right through the course (maybe I shouldn't have been out drinking that night).

Impressive story though.... My mates reckon it's the only time they've ever actually seen someone god completely in the air and rotate through 90 degrees before landing on their back.
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Old 16-07-12, 07:39 PM   #12
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I believe that you have to register the offence with the Police first, then you can tell them about the public CCTV, and also of premises CCTV. I would do it sharpish as i imagine they don't keep CCTV footage for a long time.
The offence was registered at the time and police have checked footage within an hour of the incident. They couldn't get premises footage though.

The 999 operator told the caller to tell the bouncers it was all on cctv and police were attending and most dispersed at that. Whether it was the truth or just good advice I'm unsure at present.
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Old 16-07-12, 07:40 PM   #13
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Can you get some cash from the criminal injuries compensation scheme

One of my colleagues was assaulted, had a tooth knocked out by some random guy who took a dislike to him in the street. Never caught the offender, but he got some money I think

http://www.justice.gov.uk/victims-and-witnesses/cica
I'm uninteresting in cash to be really honest. I am (well, will be) fine physically and a happy person - I just don't want these chaps on the doors.
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Old 16-07-12, 07:42 PM   #14
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phone an ambulance chaser they are bound to take the case

or chalk it up as a bad experience and move on.
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Old 16-07-12, 07:43 PM   #15
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Report it. No doubt. Even if you clocked him one ( which you didn't I hope) they have no need to follow you.

Haul them over the coals!

Unless you did something really bad.?

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The offence was registered at the time and police have checked footage within an hour of the incident. They couldn't get premises footage though.

The 999 operator told the caller to tell the bouncers it was all on cctv and police were attending and most dispersed at that. Whether it was the truth or just good advice I'm unsure at present.
That's good then. In that case i would go for it and press charges. You know what he/they look like and where they work. Even if it gets no where or he gets a caution, it is a mark on him and means he potentially could lose his job.
That would have been good advice and for the safety of yourself + friends i imagine, they probably knew they would leave the scene and not carry on the assault.

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Old 16-07-12, 07:44 PM   #17
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Cnuts, glad you're ok buddy

In fairness door staff have calmed down a lot these days but it used to be a regular occurrence in the 80's and early 90's before it was clamped down on.

Making a complaint is the right thing to do IMO, they have to have licenses now I believe which involves police checks, hopefully it might cause them some hassle.

Either complain or get a shotgun license

*this actually happened to a lad I used to work with, he worked doors on the weekend and after refusing entry to some pikey looking lads then they came back later and blasted the door which he was behind, he was peppered with shot in his neck and back.
Yeah a mate was working some other doors that night and has provided me with names conveniently. He has been stabbed twice and shot at and takes verbal abuse week in week out, that's not right IMO.
The aggressor here was looking for a fight from the start, he was ****ed off I wasn't stupid enough to physically hit him in my opinion or they would have dragged me into the club at the door.

I've always been of the opinion if nothing you can do could be construed as a physical advance you're fine, this wasn't the case here which isn't really right in my opinion.

Just going to stress the verbal tirade didn't commence until I'd been assaulted.
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Old 16-07-12, 07:46 PM   #18
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Report it to the local police. If no criminal case happens hopefully the Licencing officers will be on their radar.
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I wouldn't count on the public CCTV mate. When I was floored in Wolverhampton a number of years ago the CCTV was conveniently looking the other way. Despite a very good description from my mates and knowing that the idiot would have run right through where the camera was said to have been pointing. Still reported it though. Both because I think these things should go on the stats, and because I needed a crime number as a reason why I had to give my presentation and leave for hospital the next day rather than sitting right through the course (maybe I shouldn't have been out drinking that night).

Impressive story though.... My mates reckon it's the only time they've ever actually seen someone god completely in the air and rotate through 90 degrees before landing on their back.
The cctv had conveniently moved before the second attack at one point, the police rang me to tell me.

haha, yeah mine was less impressive - I was just swamped. Managed to stop them dragging me to the club though
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Old 16-07-12, 07:50 PM   #20
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From what you've said regarding injuries then it's almost definitely not GBH unless you've got any serious breaks in the skin? If you've got visible bruising/marks etc then you'd be looking at ABH.
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