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Antrats73 · 28-05-13, 07:04 PM

I passed my test about 2+ years ago and definitely still class myself as a newbie, my 19 year old son hasn't passed his driving test yet but really wants to do do a cbt for commuting to and from uni but I'm worried to death as I've seen and also had a few near misses in the car where youngsters on the nice shiny new scooters have no road sense what so ever, no shoulder checks nothing and I know my son would be exactly the same having no road experience, so I agree that maybe further training or extended cbt would be more than usefull!!

And just to add I'm not having a go at the younger riders as I'm pretty sure at that age I would have thought I was bulletproof and been exactly the same!!

Antrats73 · 28-05-13, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NTECUK

Can you get another bike buddy and get him to ride in between you.
The guy infront will help keep him safe.
If hes ok and takes advice ok your help him out.
You can't beat experance,

Great advice this is how I learn from my mates!!

yorkie_chris · 28-05-13, 07:11 PM

Sure he'll be reet once he's been on the bike more than 5 minutes.

I think CBT is plenty and will never call for more red tape, expense and eurobollox that they keep lumbering us with!

Antrats73 · 28-05-13, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Sure he'll be reet once he's been on the bike more than 5 minutes.

I think CBT is plenty and will never call for more red tape, expense and eurobollox that they keep lumbering us with!

I know what you mean may be 5 months rather than 5 mins and I'd feel a bit better about my lad too haha, But it's out of my hands as its his choice now all I've said is i'll go out with him on a few rides to get his confidence up and he seems happy with that so we shall see.. Watch this space!!

NTECUK · 28-05-13, 07:36 PM

Why not invite him on a ride out local, When sarah passed I got her to ride between me and Daz. Just to the local pub and MAG meets.
She was soon fine enough to go on longer runs.
She had passed her car test a good few years before.

29-05-13, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antrats73

I passed my test about 2+ years ago and definitely still class myself as a newbie, my 19 year old son hasn't passed his driving test yet but really wants to do do a cbt for commuting to and from uni but I'm worried to death as I've seen and also had a few near misses in the car where youngsters on the nice shiny new scooters have no road sense what so ever, no shoulder checks nothing and I know my son would be exactly the same having no road experience, so I agree that maybe further training or extended cbt would be more than usefull!!

And just to add I'm not having a go at the younger riders as I'm pretty sure at that age I would have thought I was bulletproof and been exactly the same!!

go for a few rides with him yourself, clip him round the ear when he forgets his checks. Tell him he can dohis CBT but can only ride solo when you say he's ready and when he's convinced you hes safe.

It wont guarantee he'll do everything right, nothing will at that age but it'll help.

NTECUK · 29-05-13, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spank86

clip him round the ear when he forgets his checks. .

Try and make it a more plesant experance.
You have to be carful not to put him off.

tonyk · 29-05-13, 08:12 AM

OK shoot me down in flames.

IMOHO I think cbt should be made ridicules hard, and getting a bike license a well earned privilege.
Seen to many youngsters who really should not be on the road, but saying that also some older people.
Same goes for car drivers……mind you some car drivers should never be allowed to drive.

29-05-13, 08:35 AM

I kind of agree with tonyk. Too many people own cars/bikes who clearly have wrong mentality of using public roads. Although police are there to stop them, its only when they get caught they may get a slap on the wrist. the amount of people asked me at uni what they need to use a bike like mine, while staring at it imaging themselves on it looking cool. FACEPALM .

should be made harder, with the encouragement further training where ever possible.

NTECUK · 29-05-13, 08:36 AM

Valied point.

28-05-13, 07:04 PM	#11
Antrats73 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Rawtenstall Posts: 231	Re: CBT not enough? I passed my test about 2+ years ago and definitely still class myself as a newbie, my 19 year old son hasn't passed his driving test yet but really wants to do do a cbt for commuting to and from uni but I'm worried to death as I've seen and also had a few near misses in the car where youngsters on the nice shiny new scooters have no road sense what so ever, no shoulder checks nothing and I know my son would be exactly the same having no road experience, so I agree that maybe further training or extended cbt would be more than usefull!! And just to add I'm not having a go at the younger riders as I'm pretty sure at that age I would have thought I was bulletproof and been exactly the same!! __________________ Sv650 k4, Oxford grips, Rear seat cowl & pad, Pyramid undertray, Tinted screen, Tinted Headlight covers, Mirror Extenders, Xenon bulbs, Blue LED speedo upgrade, Jisu stubby exhaust + hanger, A Gizmo, Cheeky home made LED tail tidy! Last edited by Antrats73; 28-05-13 at 07:11 PM.

28-05-13, 07:11 PM	#13
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: CBT not enough? Sure he'll be reet once he's been on the bike more than 5 minutes. I think CBT is plenty and will never call for more red tape, expense and eurobollox that they keep lumbering us with! __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

28-05-13, 07:36 PM	#15
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: CBT not enough? Why not invite him on a ride out local, When sarah passed I got her to ride between me and Daz. Just to the local pub and MAG meets. She was soon fine enough to go on longer runs. She had passed her car test a good few years before. __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

29-05-13, 08:12 AM	#18
tonyk Member Mega Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: On the beach... Posts: 1,486	Re: CBT not enough? OK shoot me down in flames. IMOHO I think cbt should be made ridicules hard, and getting a bike license a well earned privilege. Seen to many youngsters who really should not be on the road, but saying that also some older people. Same goes for car drivers……mind you some car drivers should never be allowed to drive. __________________ "Meh" - ASM Forever, RIP. 13/03/1986 - 05/04/2008 "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and clear all doubts." Some days its not even worth chewing through the restraints... Last edited by tonyk; 29-05-13 at 08:13 AM.

29-05-13, 08:35 AM	#19
kiggles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CBT not enough? I kind of agree with tonyk. Too many people own cars/bikes who clearly have wrong mentality of using public roads. Although police are there to stop them, its only when they get caught they may get a slap on the wrist. the amount of people asked me at uni what they need to use a bike like mine, while staring at it imaging themselves on it looking cool. FACEPALM . should be made harder, with the encouragement further training where ever possible.

29-05-13, 08:36 AM	#20
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: CBT not enough? Valied point. __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.