Ketamine.

Originally Posted by Fallout

This is why I stick to crack.

Ar5e crack ?

I just know a large group of people ( a few personally) who just rave and do ket every weekend. Seeing them sharing this link on fb was amusing

[muzikill]

Originally Posted by specialone

Ar5e crack ?

THE crack

^ Nutt D, King LA, Saulsbury W, Blakemore C (2007). "Development of a rational scale to assess the harm of drugs of potential misuse". Lancet 369 (9566): 1047–53. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(07)60464-4. PMID 17382831.

If you consider dependence and physical harm of a drug as equals, ketamine is not much worse than alcohol. See how many illegal substances are not even as bad as alcohol. I will never understand drug laws.

(Coincidentally, I landed from Ibiza today at 5am after we did my best mates stag do out there. I've never been, but damn that place is friggin awesome!)

Jayneflakes - spot on.

Blue
(NHS Substance Misuse Specialist)

I wish I knew the answer to whether or not to legalise drugs. I sit on the fence and can see the arguments for and against it.

I personally think taking a horse tranquilliser for a laugh is pretty stupid but hey, that's just my opinion.

It does appear to me that there are a lot more younger people getting into hot water after starting off using things like Ket and MCat as recreational drugs. What starts of as recreational use is rapidly turning into addictions (be they physical or mental). And this is worrying.

What really worries me though is this trend of legal highs. The govt bans one so some guy sits and finds something with a similar chemical property and folk buy them and end up ill with it. Mainly because they really, really don't have a clue what it is they even think they are taking.

[yorkie_chris]

I don't see how you can legislate against legal highs without ending up with a really annoying, restrictive and expensive society.

Actually, I don't really care about a few people who chose to kill themselves compared to me being able to buy a can of brake cleaner without a 10 point background check and it costing £80.

Quote: "It can take just months of heavy use before users suffer urinary problems"

The people having issues are abusers not users.
I'm not saying it's good to take these drugs.

The fact is people who consistently abuse alcohol end up with more than bladder problems.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I don't see how you can legislate against legal highs without ending up with a really annoying, restrictive and expensive society.

Actually, I don't really care about a few people who chose to kill themselves compared to me being able to buy a can of brake cleaner without a 10 point background check and it costing £80.

To be honest, I can't see how they can legislate against them. Because the point is that they will iust keep changing the compound enough to change but so that effects are similar. I think education is the key.

[Fallout]

Thanks Ketamine. Some people mocked my choice to invest in the catheter bag industry, but you've proven them wrong.