Auto welding masks? - Page 2 - SV650.org

yorkie_chris · 09-09-13, 12:08 PM

Ahh different story, that would be argon co2 mix! Pure argon is too cold like I say.

Bibio · 09-09-13, 12:09 PM

i remember having a go with one years ago and i still done 'the nod'. took me ages to get out the habit of lifting the mask

argosheild universal is way better that CO2.

timwilky · 09-09-13, 12:16 PM

Having suffered arc eye a few times as a result of the transition from striking to getting the mask in place when dealing with restricted access and needing to be able to position the rod. (yes excuses). I fail to understand why even the cheap welder suppliers do not provide automatic visors.

OK adds a few quid to the initial layout. But essential in the H&S blame/claim culture.

Spanner Man · 11-09-13, 06:25 AM

Good morning all.

I've used an automatic mask for over 20 years. One with variable shade is preferable to a non adjustable one.
They're a lot cheaper now than they used to be. Mine cost around £200 when I bought it all those years ago.

On the subject of welding gasses. I don't know what mixes are available in the disposable bottles, but having a BOC account, I use their Argoshield Universal. This contains 15% Argon, & is more effective on inferior steel, or for when you can't clean it up properly.

Cheers.

NTECUK · 11-09-13, 06:31 AM

Machine mart has Argon mix as well as plain CO2

11-09-13, 08:49 AM

Dont go to Machine Mart or BOC (if you still have to rent bottles from BOC) for your gas.

There are plenty of independents out there now where you have a one off fee for your bottle and then just pay for refills.

I use Boss Gas which is £40 for the bottle and approx £20 for a refill for a mid sized bottle of Argon mix

_Stretchie_ · 11-09-13, 08:56 AM

I got my helmet from here:

http://www.weldequip.com/helmets.htm

Mine is the £42 (SifLite Auto Darkening Welding Helmet)

I don't do a lot of welding, just hobby really.

It's fine with ARC and MIG but I think that I used a different, darker, one when I tried TIG welding at the college when I did my welding course

aesmith · 12-09-13, 12:24 PM

Thanks everyone, both for relevant recommendations and for general welding stuff. As you might have guessed I have a low end welder (SIP Migmate 150), so I'm probably limited to disposable bottles or "gas less" flux cored wire.

On the original subject I think I might splash out on that one for £42.

NTECUK · 12-09-13, 12:53 PM

you could up grade it
http://www.weldequip.com/argonmix-conversion-kit-se.htm

aesmith · 12-09-13, 01:24 PM

I'll bear that in mind thanks. I have (I think) two spare disposable bottles at the moment, but it's nice to know there's an upgrade path available if I start using it more.

09-09-13, 12:08 PM	#11
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: Auto welding masks? Ahh different story, that would be argon co2 mix! Pure argon is too cold like I say. __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

09-09-13, 12:09 PM	#12
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,569	Re: Auto welding masks? i remember having a go with one years ago and i still done 'the nod'. took me ages to get out the habit of lifting the mask argosheild universal is way better that CO2.

09-09-13, 12:16 PM	#13
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Re: Auto welding masks? Having suffered arc eye a few times as a result of the transition from striking to getting the mask in place when dealing with restricted access and needing to be able to position the rod. (yes excuses). I fail to understand why even the cheap welder suppliers do not provide automatic visors. OK adds a few quid to the initial layout. But essential in the H&S blame/claim culture. __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

11-09-13, 06:25 AM	#14
Spanner Man Member Mega Poster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sunbury Middlesex Posts: 1,396	Re: Auto welding masks? Good morning all. I've used an automatic mask for over 20 years. One with variable shade is preferable to a non adjustable one. They're a lot cheaper now than they used to be. Mine cost around £200 when I bought it all those years ago. On the subject of welding gasses. I don't know what mixes are available in the disposable bottles, but having a BOC account, I use their Argoshield Universal. This contains 15% Argon, & is more effective on inferior steel, or for when you can't clean it up properly. Cheers. __________________ Spanner Man http://stewarts-motorcycles.co.uk/default.html

11-09-13, 06:31 AM	#15
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Auto welding masks? Machine mart has Argon mix as well as plain CO2 __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

11-09-13, 08:49 AM	#16
hardhat_harry Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Auto welding masks? Dont go to Machine Mart or BOC (if you still have to rent bottles from BOC) for your gas. There are plenty of independents out there now where you have a one off fee for your bottle and then just pay for refills. I use Boss Gas which is £40 for the bottle and approx £20 for a refill for a mid sized bottle of Argon mix

11-09-13, 08:56 AM	#17
_Stretchie_ Large Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minsterworth, Gloucester Posts: 2,353	Re: Auto welding masks? I got my helmet from here: http://www.weldequip.com/helmets.htm Mine is the £42 (SifLite Auto Darkening Welding Helmet) I don't do a lot of welding, just hobby really. It's fine with ARC and MIG but I think that I used a different, darker, one when I tried TIG welding at the college when I did my welding course __________________ How to amuze an idiot: Look right-> <-Look Left

12-09-13, 12:24 PM	#18
aesmith Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 966	Re: Auto welding masks? Thanks everyone, both for relevant recommendations and for general welding stuff. As you might have guessed I have a low end welder (SIP Migmate 150), so I'm probably limited to disposable bottles or "gas less" flux cored wire. On the original subject I think I might splash out on that one for £42.

12-09-13, 12:53 PM	#19
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Auto welding masks? you could up grade it http://www.weldequip.com/argonmix-conversion-kit-se.htm __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

12-09-13, 01:24 PM	#20
aesmith Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 966	Re: Auto welding masks? I'll bear that in mind thanks. I have (I think) two spare disposable bottles at the moment, but it's nice to know there's an upgrade path available if I start using it more.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Surgical masks	The Idle Biker	Idle Banter	25	15-01-13 12:58 PM
2004 BMW 330CD Sport Auto (STEP AUTO) (204 BHP,302lbs/ft), 93,000 miles, Black £6,000	Mej	Idle Banter	5	05-11-12 11:28 AM
For Sale: 2004 BMW 330CD Sport Auto (STEP AUTO) (204 BHP,302lbs/ft), 78,000 miles, Black £8,200	Mej	Idle Banter	24	26-01-12 04:08 PM
Helmet masks	danf1234	Bikes - Talk & Issues	13	01-12-10 03:08 PM
Arc Welding Anyone?	squirrel_hunter	Bikes - Talk & Issues	50	16-09-08 03:58 PM