Effect of rear braking on chain?

Originally Posted by ophic

To drift shouldn't the rear wheel be spinning? Or is this just Tokyo Drift?

He's referring to "backing it in" I believe.

Originally Posted by specialone

Jeez Tim, did you think of letting go of the rear brake before that happened?

To the op, Don't rear brake with clutch in, it will lock, the drive of the rear wheel stops or reduces this happening, same as a car, you don't /shouldnt slam the anchors with the clutch in, you only put that in just as you pull up to stop it stalling.

thank , sorry didn't fully understand the post. you are saying the clutch should be engaged when trying to lock rear wheel ? that wheel be hard and you might stall the bike. you need the rear spinning and out of control and front to have grip to do drifting , right ?

if the clutch is engaged then I can't lock the wheel or with force , is in't that true ?

[timwilky]

That tyre was caused by a strap failing that held a sleeping bag to my rack, the bag locked up the wheel at about 80mph.


I tell you skidding towards oncoming traffic who simply flash their lights at you was not fun.

Originally Posted by stranger12

thank , sorry didn't fully understand the post. you are saying the clutch should be engaged when trying to lock rear wheel ? that wheel be hard and you might stall the bike. you need the rear spinning and out of control and front to have grip to do drifting , right ?

if the clutch is engaged then I can't lock the wheel or with force , is in't that true ?

I think He's suggesting that

one, you shouldn't be locking the back wheel,

Two, if you want to drift you want to break traction by spinning not locking the back wheel and

Three you probably shouldn't be spinning the back wheel and drifting unless you're damn sure you know what you're doing or you like to ride your luck.

Also you can lock the back wheel with clutch engaged but it's not as easy to do accidentally.


Personally I like to ride my luck but only cos I'm interested to find out when it'll run out,

Last but not least I'm a tad worried about the phrase "out of control" I'd recommend trying to achieve it spinning whilst IN control, myself.

Originally Posted by Spank86

I think He's suggesting that

one, you shouldn't be locking the back wheel,

Two, if you want to drift you want to break traction by spinning not locking the back wheel and

Three you probably shouldn't be spinning the back wheel and drifting unless you're damn sure you know what you're doing or you like to ride your luck.

Also you can lock the back wheel with clutch engaged but it's not as easy to do accidentally.


Personally I like to ride my luck but only cos I'm interested to find out when it'll run out,

Yep, spank summed it up perfectly.

[aesmith]

Originally Posted by stranger12

... for instance when I pull the clutch in, it feels like the rear is much stronger on braking

That's probably an illusion, with the clutch in and no engine braking all you're feeling is the back brake.

when riding and the bike is in gear and you apply the brake , does that put pressure on the chain as the engine is trying to spin it and the brake to stop it ?

Applying the back brake while slowing down will reduce the chain tension, assuming you have the throttle closed.

Originally Posted by Fallout

Yeah, they're proper tough. To give you an example, to undo/do up the front sprocket nut, typically you need to stop the rear wheel from moving and the chain then holds the front sprocket still. The chain then takes the strain as you wrench on that nut. I've never been able to get the rear brake on hard enough to stop the rear wheel moving when I have a breaker bar on the front sprocket nut. I normally have to put a steel bar between the wheel and swing arm to stop the rear wheel moving, and then jump up and down on the breaker bar to undo the nut. Even then the chain doesn't snap.

although not the recommended way to undo the spocket nut!!,,using a air or battery impact is the onlyway to guarantee not damaging the output shaft and bearings

[Fallout]

What I typically do is put an axle stand or similar under the 'knee' of the bar I'm using, so hopefully I'm only applying torque force to the shaft and not downwards force.