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Old 31-01-14, 04:06 PM   #11
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No worries my friend.

IIRC the transportation of broken-down bikes/cars to a garage which is obliged to repair them under warranty is a grey area - couple of people on here like Lozza have worked at dealerships and may be able to advise. It's only four miles though so you could always push it?! (I've pushed my SV for three before and it was the best workout I've ever had!)

Don't get too down about it - from the sound of things it will be something minor and the dealer should fix it or give you a refund. They're generally reliable bikes but with alarms, previous owners' tinkerings etc you can get electrical gremlins.

Btw the HT lead is the black cable going from the spark plug caps to the coil - they transmit the pulse of electricity to the spark plugs. But again, best to leave the dealer to investigate I think.

Hi again Chris, yeah, thanks for the moral support, I do feel totally deflated, my first new BIG bike toy and it's sitting there, taunting me. I have got back on my peddle bike which was fun in an ironic way and blinking cold too haha!

The Dealer is coming to get it tomorrow, hopefully. Father and Son business and the Son does all the repairs as the Father is of retirement age. I'm going to suck it up and pay the £20 for them to collect it, mainly to keep on the good side of them, like a good will insurance policy. If I start getting shirty with them, they can only make my life harder and I don't want to end up in court, who does? :/

I'm trying to stay positive. I popped in a Susuki main dealer today and they don't think the injectors would go just like that, they think it might be a bent/blocked fuel line. But said you can never tell until you see a bike and best let the Dealer sort it out. They also said I was very calm considering. I just haven't let the rage out, they won't want to see that...

I'll keep you posted.

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Old 31-01-14, 04:20 PM   #12
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I must say you are being very calm about it right now, I would be steaming. not sure I would be able to hold it in especially when they come to collect it and I had to had £20 over to them

Good look, hope its nothing to bad so you get the bike back quick smart.
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Old 31-01-14, 05:08 PM   #13
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Hmm I think once it's sorted (which it will be soon, touch wood) you need to name and shame them, here and on other websites like reviewcentre.com. As long as it's completely honest and factual, there's nothing they can do.

I think people who are new to bikes can often be too trusting with dealers as you think biker camaraderie means they're on your side. I was like that and put up with things I shouldn't have as a result.

Eg them: "What it is, the pins on your brake calipers (on the bike we sold you two months ago) were seized solid. It took two of us to get them out so it's an extra £20 more than we quoted to fit the pads."

Me: "Oh OK, no problems, here you go."
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Old 31-01-14, 05:14 PM   #14
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Hopefully this is something simple. These bikes are generally very reliable.

If you're in London you may want to wander by the Soho section, there's a weekly meet in Frith St, Soho on a Friday, you're welcome on foot or bike. There's usually someone there, although in the summer when it's warm the attendance is higher

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P.S. Lets wait for the outcome here. Until we know what's wrong, we don't know what to think. It costs the dealer to recover the bike and if it turns out to be the kill-switch being on (I'm not saying it is, but there have been a few red faces on here for a bike that wouldn't start), that's money out of his pocket to look at something that isn't a warranty type fix.
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Old 06-02-14, 01:19 PM   #15
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Hopefully this is something simple. These bikes are generally very reliable.

If you're in London you may want to wander by the Soho section, there's a weekly meet in Frith St, Soho on a Friday, you're welcome on foot or bike. There's usually someone there, although in the summer when it's warm the attendance is higher

Jambo

P.S. Lets wait for the outcome here. Until we know what's wrong, we don't know what to think. It costs the dealer to recover the bike and if it turns out to be the kill-switch being on (I'm not saying it is, but there have been a few red faces on here for a bike that wouldn't start), that's money out of his pocket to look at something that isn't a warranty type fix.

You may now breathe again, the results are finally in!!!

It turned out to be.....wait for it......WAIT FOR IT........

there....

was....

too....

much.....

FUEL IN THE DAMN THING!!!

In my efforts to get every last mile out of the bike, I used to lift the pump nozzle at petrol stations to get an extra 50p - £1 worth of fuel in to my old Varadero. Not a problem for THAT bike ever! But the SV, now that's different. It wasn't breathing hence the FUEL light coming on all the time! After some investigations, lifting the tank, opening the fuel cap, checking leads and so on, he drained a cup of fuel out of the tank and, "tried a start" just to see if it would and hey presto!!!

Whilst the bike was in the shop, he did the oil and filter change he promised for free (Castrol F1) and I paid for NGK iridium spark plugs to be fitted so it's all ready for spring and some UK touring. The recovery and parts bill came to £43 and change, he took £40....

I will name the shop, "Neil Harris Motorcycles" Chingford N4 London, but as for, "name and shame" ill leave that for you to decide if you think I wasn't treated fairly...? Me, I am going to stick with my gut and say they are good blokes, even if the dad is a bit on the moody side, but ill put that down to age ha-ha.

I am also a member of Londonbikers forum and went on a meet last night; the consensus is that they are OK blokes, no-one had anything bad to say about them, fits with my instinct.

The red F1 light does still come on when it is first primed, but goes out and stays out once running. I just wonder if that is something I should be concerned about?

Anyway, I think that's everything covered. I went for a mini rideout last night and it feels fine. I even picked up some tricks from a race adjudicator on how to get more mid-range torque without spending a penny, he said he sees it all the time at track events where the riders are trying to, "cheat" ha-ha!

All for now.

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Old 06-02-14, 01:40 PM   #16
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In my efforts to get every last mile out of the bike, I used to lift the pump nozzle at petrol stations to get an extra 50p - £1 worth of fuel in to my old Varadero. Not a problem for THAT bike ever! But the SV, now that's different. It wasn't breathing hence the FUEL light coming on all the time!
Sounds strange. I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure you should have been dumping fuel on the fore-court well before that? Possibly something up with the fuel tank vent?

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Anyway, I think that's everything covered. I went for a mini rideout last night and it feels fine. I even picked up some tricks from a race adjudicator on how to get more mid-range torque without spending a penny, he said he sees it all the time at track events where the riders are trying to, "cheat" ha-ha!
Does it involve disconnecting the clutch safety switch?
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Old 06-02-14, 07:47 PM   #17
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In my efforts to get every last mile out of the bike, I used to lift the pump nozzle at petrol stations to get an extra 50p - £1 worth of fuel in to my old Varadero. Not a problem for THAT bike ever! But the SV, now that's different.
Don't know how you managed that, I've been a bit optimistic filling the SV before a long motorway trip so I don't have to sell a kidney for service station fuel, and it just dribbles out the drain pipe (along with my 'savings'). I never used to go past 90% full on my 125 either, as I couldn't pull away with a full tank!

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The red F1 light does still come on when it is first primed, but goes out and stays out once running. I just wonder if that is something I should be concerned about?

Does it go out once you start the engine, as that's what mine does and it's still running!
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Old 17-03-14, 12:23 AM   #18
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I don't know if I had ever told you the result of my problem, but to cut it short, apparently I had put to much fuel in the tank and it wasn't breathing, so the mechanic drained some fuel, and hey presto, starts every time. Thanks for all the help SV lovers.
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