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Old 02-06-05, 06:34 PM   #11
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Just kill the S O B. Job done
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Old 02-06-05, 07:15 PM   #12
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If the guy doesn't have the courtesy to speak to you before calling the police for something so minor then stuff him!

Provided you're being reasonable (and it sounds like you are, but only you know) then I'd carry on regardless. If you get another visit from the old bill then suggest to them that you feel that your neighbour is harassing you!
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Old 02-06-05, 07:16 PM   #13
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Old 02-06-05, 07:31 PM   #14
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I don't think it matters whether your can is road legal or not as this is actually a Health and Safety issue I think.

The copper is also wrong about the level being deemed simply 'unacceptable' - again a Health and Safety issue there are actual decibel levels that have to be broken I think.

Don't quote me on that as it's only a vague recollection I have from talking to a friend who work for the council. She's taking her exams n stuff about H&S issues. I'll drop her a line and ask specifically if you want - or you could have a look on the net, there's bound to be something useful on there somewhere besides 80's TV shows and p*rn.
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Old 02-06-05, 07:50 PM   #15
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why dont you go talk to him? the more reasonable you are the harder it is for him to prove that you are being anti-social.

Also make a record of it if you do. Then if he does make a complaint you can show you made an effort to sort it out and again it will start to make him look unreasonable.
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Old 02-06-05, 08:33 PM   #16
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OK - my area of expertise

If the bike was on private property, i.e not the public highway, then the police don't have jurisdiction - the local authority do. It's Section 79(1) of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 and it's to do with Statutory Nuisance.

I doubt that the local authority in your area would consider what you're doing to amount to a Stat Nuiance; you'd have to be doing something unreasonable and the noise would have to be persistent and recurrent.

If you bike is on private property and if, as I think you are, you're in the Cardiff area then PM me and I'll give you the name and phone number of a bike-riding EHO in the noise team who will talk it through with you

One thing..............isn't 3,000rpm a little high? Can you get away with 2,000rpm?

If on the other hand, you're doing it on the road/footpath then this is a matter under police jurisdiction. If your can is legal the all they can do is consider it under the Highways Act 1980, one part of which makes prolonged/excessive idling unlawful. If you're just starting your engine then putting on your helmet/gloves before riding off then I doubt that this will be considered excessive.

If your can is illegal then you might get a producer and/or a rectification notice. Whether the coppers would know about an illegal can is a mute point, of course.

HTH - feel free to PM me as I'm intersted to know what the coppers said to you.
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Old 02-06-05, 08:35 PM   #17
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I know my bike is loud and always consider my neighbours (walk the bike out of the garden onto the road before starting it, in the morning).
Just re-read your post.

My advice:
Start your bike in your garden and take the police out of the equation. See my post above for the local authority point of view.
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Old 02-06-05, 08:38 PM   #18
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I don't think it matters whether your can is road legal or not as this is actually a Health and Safety issue I think.
Nope. Definitely not as it's not connected with any trade or occupation.

Stat nuisance (local authority) or Highways Act (police) depending upon circumstances.
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Old 02-06-05, 09:42 PM   #19
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my mate had a similar problem with his drum kit.
basically the police came round with noise testing kit and set up the kit in the guys bedroom, and got my mate to play drums.

he was told that he was legally allowed to make 80db of noise (80db into the neighbours room)
banging his drums away, it only made 50db next door.

so of course - he can bang his drums as loud as he wants at any hour he wishes
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Old 02-06-05, 09:56 PM   #20
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I don't think it matters whether your can is road legal or not as this is actually a Health and Safety issue I think.
Nope. Definitely not as it's not connected with any trade or occupation.

Stat nuisance (local authority) or Highways Act (police) depending upon circumstances.
Ahhh, the muddy waters of my recollection are a little clearer now. I think perhaps I'm confusing two conversations and turning them into one burbling mush. Something about decibel levels (similar to what Bikage has mentioned) floats to the surface though.


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