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Old 07-03-06, 06:55 PM   #11
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my mates 64 and hes just sold his £145,000 house to norwich union for £30,000 and he gets to live there till the day he snuff it, he also sold half his garden for £25,000! it may only be £55,000 but at leest he gets to spend it and have a more comfortable retirement.
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Old 07-03-06, 10:30 PM   #12
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Oh aye, i meant to say thi in the last one... When there's limited resources, I don't think there's essentially anything wrong with expecting someone who can afford a basic need to pay for it themselves, and giving it to someone else for free. You might say "Where's the impetus to save or earn more", I'd say that most people would still be motivated to get more or better.
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Old 08-03-06, 10:19 AM   #13
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I noticed an add on TV yesterday and commented to my kids that they are now funding post 16 studies EMA I think they call it, but only for family incomes of < £30,000 again shouldn't it be a right for all kids to get the money. or is "new labour" being predjudice against "middle england" God forbid.
Or in the old day if you wanted cash when you hit 16 you got a Saturday job. All the EMA does is encourage the next generation of spongers!
Yep. The EMA is an awful idea (I deal with some of the software that runs it and the bloke who dreamed it up is a client). Same goes for the latest proposed idea of roughly £500 set aside for each kid when they turn 18. So, you're aged 18 and , where's that going to go then? I'll tell you; either ****ed up the wall or an old banger. So, aside from the cost of the money itself and cost of administering it, there's the longer term costs of more policing/NHS costs to deal with drunk teenagers and a few more uninsured cars on the road.

When I was 16 I got a part time job. It was difficult, the boss was a ****, and I was woefully underpaid. I wanted the money, so I put up with it. At no point did the government give me any cash.

As Sharriso says, aside from the aspect that I'm paying for the current generation of idle teenagers (aside from the fact that EMA wasn't in place then, so I never had the option to be one), even more worryingly it further erodes the desirable life lesson (which kids should be learning at that age) that if you want something, you work for it; not just get a handout. It wouldn't be so bad if the money was actually for education (IE vouchers that can only be spent on textbooks/calculators/stationary/etc) for poorer kids, but it's not; it's state sponsored pocket money for teenagers. I see it as yet another facet of, I work my **** off and pay tax and aside from me getting very little back, a lot of undeserving people get a lot more.
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Old 08-03-06, 06:07 PM   #14
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Disgusting. There is something like 1.5 million pensioners unable to heat their homes, and 1 million living below the poverty line. The money is there to look after our elderly, but when has looking after British people ever been a priority of a British government??????
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