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Old 23-03-06, 06:21 PM   #11
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Sounds like a rejected script from this poxy film

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Old 23-03-06, 08:51 PM   #12
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hmmm so if it all goes horribly wrong will that leave the government open to being sued by everyone affected?
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Old 23-03-06, 09:07 PM   #13
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When they seed a cloud all they're doing is providing a condensation nucleus for the moisture vapour to form around.
If you want a similar example that you can see, look at a glass of fizzy water in a completely clean glass then compare it to fizzy water in a slightly grubby glass. In the grubby glass, there will be bubbles forming quickly on the sides. The dirt acts as a condensation nucleus and allows the gas to come out of solution in the water.

Edit: I just noticed that my post isn't entirely relevent, but since when has that stopped me?
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Old 23-03-06, 09:14 PM   #14
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Here's a controversial point of view:

If what happened in New Orleans had happened in London we'd be all for it, wouldn't we?
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Old 23-03-06, 09:26 PM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Well Oiled
Here's a controversial point of view:

If what happened in New Orleans had happened in London we'd be all for it, wouldn't we?
Emm. Well, New Orleans happened because it was New Orleans. People were warned that it was likely that this would happen. People were warned that if you continued to get rid of this swamp buffering area, not re-enforce the levys and do various other things, it would happen.

The US Govt took the gamble to not do this, to defer doing this to the next administration. This gamble did not pay off.

I am not saying that London is immune to hurricanes. But, London / Dublin / most cities are not N.O. Thankfully.
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Old 23-03-06, 09:32 PM   #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carsick
When they seed a cloud all they're doing is providing a condensation nucleus for the moisture vapour to form around.
If you want a similar example that you can see, look at a glass of fizzy water in a completely clean glass then compare it to fizzy water in a slightly grubby glass. In the grubby glass, there will be bubbles forming quickly on the sides. The dirt acts as a condensation nucleus and allows the gas to come out of solution in the water.

Edit: I just noticed that my post isn't entirely relevent, but since when has that stopped me?
In fairness... I think your reply is pretty reasonable.

It gives a nice clear idea of things. What these guys are doing is purposefully making certain parts of the glass rough, increasing the likelyhood of bubbles (rain) forming there.
Its not that they are completely changing global weather patterns (with this stuff), it is something that is much more localised, and less significant than that.

I think this sort of answers Lynws post. Ie, this sort of thing is very unlikely to have unforseen, dangerous crazy effects. You are seeding a rain cloud. It rains here rather than 100 miles away. Not that big a deal. IMO
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Old 23-03-06, 09:40 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Well Oiled
Here's a controversial point of view:

If what happened in New Orleans had happened in London we'd be all for it, wouldn't we?
Emm. Well, New Orleans happened because it was New Orleans. People were warned that it was likely that this would happen. People were warned that if you continued to get rid of this swamp buffering area, not re-enforce the levys and do various other things, it would happen.

The US Govt took the gamble to not do this, to defer doing this to the next administration. This gamble did not pay off.

I am not saying that London is immune to hurricanes. But, London / Dublin / most cities are not N.O. Thankfully.
The key word here is 'If' I know it's not likely and the flooding would be different, but I know 'if' I was in the New Orleans area and likely to suffer the same fate I'd say go ahead and try to disrupt the hurricane.
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Old 23-03-06, 09:46 PM   #18
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well after just watching a program on this very thing , it's silver nitride below the cloud (to allow it to rise through) and Dry ice above or inside the cloud.

needs them both or it does not work (seemingly)

and the pilot that flies into the cloud with the dry ice is totally (NUTS)
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Old 23-03-06, 09:55 PM   #19
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...but I know 'if' I was in the New Orleans area and likely to suffer the same fate I'd say go ahead and try to disrupt the hurricane.
Ahhh. Yes. Sorry, completely. Go for it. Disrupt the crap out of it. You are not really going to make things any worse at this point... exactly. Do your worst.
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