The tax man......

Originally Posted by mac

Thanx Lynw - you are a star

Will post off the relevant p60`s and see what happens.

COPIES of them.

DO NOT send the originals unless they specifically tell you to. Its not unknown for them to get lost.

Oh my God, GYKD. You should keep your P60's FOREVER!

We've just covered payroll at college, and my tutor told me of a bloke she had to help, he'd just retired and was told by the IR that they had no record of his NI number or him existing, so wouldn't pay him any pension. He was able to prove his existance with all of this P60's, going back 30 odd years.

Please, please start keeping your P60's, even if you do feel compelled to throw away your payslips.

Nutty x

[timwilky]

yes, I got every p60 I have ever had, dating back to April 1977. I also keep every notification of coding, tax calc, copies of my returns etc. I have seen enough people put through the wringer that I have no intentions of following them.

Originally Posted by timwilky

yes, I got every p60 I have ever had, dating back to April 1977. I also keep every notification of coding, tax calc, copies of my returns etc. I have seen enough people put through the wringer that I have no intentions of following them.

I was only 3 back then

Damn, I wasn't even born yet. 1 more month to go...

I've got all my pay slips and P60's for the last 7-8 years I think. Have had to go back to the tax office a few times to get money I'm owed.

Originally Posted by lynw

Ok, PAYE. Theoretically, your employer takes deductions and pays them over to the Revenue. However, it isnt unknown for some employers to issue wage slips showing youve "paid" the tax, but they never pay it over to what was the IR and now HMRC.

If that were the case here, the Revenue take a very dim view of that and your employer will be in heaps load more crap than you can imagine. Secondly, and the problem for you, is that you still OWE the tax and have to pay it.

So the employee doing everything legal and being shown that its legal still ends up paying out due to someone elses feckup...

hmmmmmm,

Now i know where all those asylum seekers get their free mobile phones and 4-5* hotels from........ Me and my taxes.....

Englands just great...........

I've kept payslips for the last 4 years and my P60s from every year

Originally Posted by Daimo

So the employee doing everything legal and being shown that its legal still ends up paying out due to someone elses feckup...

hmmmmmm,

Now i know where all those asylum seekers get their free mobile phones and 4-5* hotels from........ Me and my taxes.....

Englands just great...........

1. Record, can I point out it needs changing? :P

2. This situation is incredibly rare, certainly not enough to pay all the assylum seekers phone/hotel bills.

But dont let any fact get in the way of a rant then. Maybe one day you'll surprise me and actually have a rant based on something remotely approaching a fact rather than biased inaccurate propaganda.

The reason this situation is incredibly rare is because the amount of crap that descends from the Revenue when we find it. The amount of crap derives precisely from the fact that its a breach of trust, fraud and affects not usually just one person. But it is a possibility. Its more likely to be an admin error with us.

3. End of the day, its not the Revenues fault. Its the COMPANY who acted fraudulently and lied to you and defrauded you. But again, dont concentrate on that when it stops you having a dig at the Revenue. Having a dig when its warranted, fair enough. Having a dig when its not, and you conveniently ignore that, isnt.

I'm one of those who keeps wage slips and P60s. I think I recently binned some that were over ten years old!

It's something I'm taking up with my employer at the moment as I didn't get a wage slip this month.

They are claiming that I don't get one because I didn't get any money this month (not even my SSP) - they apparently miscalculated things and have overpaid me for the past three months and are only not clawing it back.

Which in itself I am not too objectionable to, but the way they're doing it is for me to have no income at all for this month, next month and reduced income the month after that - bearing in mind that for the past two and a half months my only 'income' has been SSP (or should have been if they hadn't cocked it up).

My argument to them is that I have no record of the calculations involved if I don't receive a payslip detailing the deductions.
I also think they are legally bound to send be one - they are definately contractually bound to as I read right the way through mine to check.