whats your take on hyosung?

[Biker Biggles]

There's a big difference between Hyosung now and early Jap bikes.Much of the critisism of the Japs was from die hard Brit is best types who would'nt give credit where it was due.Jap bikes then were cheaper and better than the home grown competition by any objective measure.They had better and more modern design,better build quality,massively better reliability and they did'nt leak oil everywhere to name a few examples.The latest influx only have a price advantage,as they use older designs,and poorer quality body parts and accessories.They are competing with established brands that invest heavily in their products and won't be caught napping like the Brits were in the sixties.

I had this....

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

I can only speak with experience about the Hyosung 125 which my son had.It was a cheap and competant bike but there were some major faults.It had really poor brakes,

The XRX125 stopped on a penny Single disc up front and drum rear, the rear wasn't up to much but the front would quite happily throw you over the bars if you gave it too much.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

and it ripped through chains and brake pads (and a disc)at an alarming rate.

Can't argue with that one, Mine had a new chain and sprockets after 3 months and a new set of brake pads after 1 month's use

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Spares are hard to get and expensive,and you will need spares.

I bought mine from George wards in Barnsley and was given a direct number for Hyosung Uk spares, They were bloody cheap and delivered quickly, needed to get the brake pads from them as i couldn't match them up to another bike ( the sprockets were same as DR125)

The other thing about them was the finish quality, The second one i got ( first was written off when a transit parked on it Luckily i jumped off) came with a dry clutch, meaning the plates welded together after about 200 miles Thankfully they binded over night so i didn't crash into anything. The exhaust rusted at the thought of getting wet, and the battery wasn't much cop.

[Biker Biggles]

I'm probably a bit out of date,but I used to get spares for Hyosung direct from the importer(some place in Croydon?)but the last time they had stopped doing them and I was redirected to some other firm.Spares problems can be sorted out however the real problem Hyosung will face is competing with the likes of the Jap four who will fight hard for their markets,not just sit back and say "We are biggest and best,no problems here"which is essentially what the Brits did in the 60s.
I'm not saying Hyosung won't be a success,just saying they won't have it on a plate like the Japs did.

Ive been in the industry 10 years and theres no information in any of my trade books for these...

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Stormspiel

Your right, The Gt 650 is an Sv650 clone engine, The XRX125 is a DR125 clone engine, The RT125 is a Van Van Clone ... etc. etc. They're all clone suzuki Engines .

Suzuki have an engine plant in China, I'm given to understand that's where your SV motor came from - I'm not 100% certain about that yet, but I've heard it from several sources now, two of which are in such a position as to be given much credit.

Sid, that is most flatering kind sir, but you must be confused I never said anything about engines in China.

Nothing wrong with Hyosung...But I would ask questions about spares and back-up before I part wit money.

i always forget this is a UK based site. Im in the US, i happened to find this site before the SV650.com. Anyways, down in SF there is a hyosung dealer that i pass by 5days a week.

One of these days ill take a break from work and stop in there. I think they've been selling the hyosung scooters for awhile as the shop is called SF scooters or something like that and then just jumped on the cheap street bikes when the come out.

[northwind]

Sid Squid irritatingly made all the points I was going to

But he left a small gap for me... The depreciation is traditionally far worse on unproven, budget options- I've not seen numbers for the Comet, but I'd expect it to be heavy. So any saving you make on purchase, you may well lose on resale.

The aftermarket parts access, volume of used spares, and sheer expertise on the SV that's out there are all big advantages. But then, I heard Traxxion is doing full support for the Comet, suspension wise.

PS,

A Griffon?? first ive heard of those. anyone care to explain what they are and if their coming to the US?