Help us choose which model to buy.....round or pointy - Page 2 - SV650.org

BillyC · 13-07-06, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate

(well, until it was written off anyway)

and even then it was still an SV, and probably even lower!

13-07-06, 05:23 PM

The offical Suzuki 10mm lower seat is only £28 for the K4 onwards.

13-07-06, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt

as the owner of a Hornet (so my taste in bikes is unquestionably bad

)

Just corrected that for you Jabba...

Will I never learn.....?

13-07-06, 10:13 PM

just out of interest why would she need to get both feet flat on the ground?
one is ok, or front of foot on both, I have to hang off my XR400 to get one flat on the ground.
i did cut an inch out of the foam on it, which made a big difference.
sure she will be fine with either.
have fun.

13-07-06, 10:59 PM

Firstly thank you all very much for the advice. It's very much appreciated.

In response to the last question. She doesn't absolutely need both feet on the ground but it would be good, partly for general confidence but mainly because the exit from our (small cramped) garage is down a really steep driveway which would be a bit scary to roll down backwards if you could only get your tippy toes on the ground. We also like doing a bit of touring and the whole balancing half off the seat becomes a bit trickier when paddling across a muddy campsite in the pouring rain with the bike overloaded with luggage.
She currently rides a Guzzi V50 which is small enought to put in your pocket and has a mega low seat height.

cheers

Stewart

15-07-06, 06:07 PM

Safer to be able to get both feet on the ground!!!!

I stopped at a set of lights & didn't see the pot hole - nearly dropped my bike in front of all the shoppers at Sainsbury's

(

Stu · 16-07-06, 10:59 PM

Surely the answer is Suzuki's 4 years extra development that went into the pointy as it's a newer design makes it better...end of!

northwind · 17-07-06, 01:33 AM

Nah... They designed in some more problems and didn't get rid of any of the old ones (well, apart from the clutch cover oil leak, which they replaced with cunningly not being able to change the clutch plates without dropping the coolant and replacing a more expensive gasket) They did improve the oil starvation issue, mind.

A lot of the changes weren't improvement-led. The fuel injection was for emissions and budget, not for performance (and it shows) and the frame was redesigned for reasons of fashion and economy (the original frame was the most expensive mass produced frame Suzuki had ever made when it was launched!) The rod design was changed to simplify the machining, but now they're just slightly weaker. Stuff like that. And lets not talk about the paint

There's some definate evolution... The oil starvation thing was good progress, the cam change was well done (performance without drawbacks is always nice), the shift star in the newer one is a better design so less false neutrals, and the forks are a little better. Makes it more or less a tie. If you suffer from and hate carb icing, then you'd call the FI an improvement. If you're happy to use fuel additives in winter as a payoff for the better response and ease of servicing of the carbs, then you'd not (ie, me) but that one shares the honours I think.

Stu · 17-07-06, 02:07 PM

Well at least I got you an answer from Northy, which is about all you can ask for on a technical point.
Now if someone will just point him to my question on exhausts...

northwind · 17-07-06, 06:13 PM

Where is it?

I shall come and pour scorn on you in your thread too

17-07-06, 01:33 AM	#18
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Nah... They designed in some more problems and didn't get rid of any of the old ones (well, apart from the clutch cover oil leak, which they replaced with cunningly not being able to change the clutch plates without dropping the coolant and replacing a more expensive gasket) They did improve the oil starvation issue, mind. A lot of the changes weren't improvement-led. The fuel injection was for emissions and budget, not for performance (and it shows) and the frame was redesigned for reasons of fashion and economy (the original frame was the most expensive mass produced frame Suzuki had ever made when it was launched!) The rod design was changed to simplify the machining, but now they're just slightly weaker. Stuff like that. And lets not talk about the paint There's some definate evolution... The oil starvation thing was good progress, the cam change was well done (performance without drawbacks is always nice), the shift star in the newer one is a better design so less false neutrals, and the forks are a little better. Makes it more or less a tie. If you suffer from and hate carb icing, then you'd call the FI an improvement. If you're happy to use fuel additives in winter as a payoff for the better response and ease of servicing of the carbs, then you'd not (ie, me) but that one shares the honours I think. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

17-07-06, 06:13 PM	#20
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Where is it? I shall come and pour scorn on you in your thread too __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

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13-07-06, 05:23 PM	#12
Wadda Guest Posts: n/a	The offical Suzuki 10mm lower seat is only £28 for the K4 onwards.

13-07-06, 10:13 PM	#14
xrphil Guest Posts: n/a	just out of interest why would she need to get both feet flat on the ground? one is ok, or front of foot on both, I have to hang off my XR400 to get one flat on the ground. i did cut an inch out of the foam on it, which made a big difference. sure she will be fine with either. have fun.

13-07-06, 10:59 PM	#15
stewart-250 Guest Posts: n/a	Firstly thank you all very much for the advice. It's very much appreciated. In response to the last question. She doesn't absolutely need both feet on the ground but it would be good, partly for general confidence but mainly because the exit from our (small cramped) garage is down a really steep driveway which would be a bit scary to roll down backwards if you could only get your tippy toes on the ground. We also like doing a bit of touring and the whole balancing half off the seat becomes a bit trickier when paddling across a muddy campsite in the pouring rain with the bike overloaded with luggage. She currently rides a Guzzi V50 which is small enought to put in your pocket and has a mega low seat height. cheers Stewart

15-07-06, 06:07 PM	#16
Kinvig Guest Posts: n/a	Safer to be able to get both feet on the ground!!!! I stopped at a set of lights & didn't see the pot hole - nearly dropped my bike in front of all the shoppers at Sainsbury's (

16-07-06, 10:59 PM	#17
Stu Trinity Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Guildford Posts: 8,027	Surely the answer is Suzuki's 4 years extra development that went into the pointy as it's a newer design makes it better...end of!

17-07-06, 02:07 PM	#19
Stu Trinity Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Guildford Posts: 8,027	Well at least I got you an answer from Northy, which is about all you can ask for on a technical point. Now if someone will just point him to my question on exhausts...