1150GS riders

Originally Posted by stuartyboy

I should speed up should I?

No, no. He didn't say get in front, he said keep in front. You just have to get out of bed earlier than them. Simple and safe

Originally Posted by stuartyboy

So by that logic....

I should overtake two stationary bikes at a junction whilst the one in front is just about to turn right onto a main road then?

I should overtake on blind left handers?

I should speed up should I?

Hmmm....that makes sense.

I was only tugging your sporan

But in all seriousness the bikes inspire confidence, perhaps overconfidence. Also typically in this country they are ridden by older gits, so tend to have a lot of experience* so maybe they make different judgement calls. Also your road view is different on those. So its a different experience to riding a sportsbike. On the other hand they could just be nobbers

*not saying your not but you know what I mean.

[STRAMASHER]

Aye, know your place non-sportsbike riders!!!

NO OVERTAKING the tupperware torpedoes!!!

They are THE DUDES!!!

Originally Posted by Dr Rich

I was only tugging your sporan

But in all seriousness the bikes inspire confidence, perhaps overconfidence. Also typically in this country they are ridden by older gits, so tend to have a lot of experience* so maybe they make different judgement calls. Also your road view is different on those. So its a different experience to riding a sportsbike. On the other hand they could just be nobbers

*not saying your not but you know what I mean.

If you tug my sporran you might get a nasty surprise (nice surprise for a Lady though).

I agree with you about inspiring confidence and road view but I was more concerened with them endangering a fellow biker when he's turning right at a junction or endanger me by overtaking on a blind bend then hitting the anchors in front of us.

No, no. He didn't say get in front, he said keep in front. You just have to get out of bed earlier than them. Simple and safe

Er...I was in front and safe! Try and get it into perspective. It was a blind bend FFS. You know the type you can't see round...just like the ones on the Duke's pass. Well he overtook us on such a bend. So do tell Tiger what's simple and safe about what he did compared to what I did???

Originally Posted by stuartyboy

Try and get it into perspective. It was a blind bend FFS. You know the type you can't see round...

Ah yes! The sport of those who don't have any decent roads nearby. Any bend is fair game (along with any poor sod around at the time) and high risk = excitement.

Garry

" I smell wee!"

Originally Posted by Tiger 55

No, no. He didn't say get in front, he said keep in front. You just have to get out of bed earlier than them. Simple and safe

Originally Posted by stuartyboy

Ifdo tell Tiger what's simple and safe about what he did compared to what I did???

My solution, badly presented due to the failing education system, was to keep in front of them by getting out of bed earlier.

You know, you're riding and they're still asleep?

You had to be there

Could be possible that the beemer rider had a better view, or observed earlier?

It's very easy to overtake bikes and cars on what appears (to them) to be a blind right hander (or left hander sometimes) when all you've done is observed that there's nothing coming well before the bend, from another angle. i.e. it's blind just before you go into it but you could see the road ahead was clear a long way before that if you'd been looking carefully enough.

Yes they could be nobbers, they could also have been advanced riders looking further ahead than most of us think is possible - a lot of IAM riders favour beemers.

No excuse for overtaking when a biker has a signal on. Possble to do that with cars sometimes, but way too risky with another bike.

As for the overtake, even if you're sitting on the limit, if the person behind thinks you'll be in their way/slowing them down when the road changes furher ahead, you're fair game. I do that to cars and other bikers all the time.

Originally Posted by SVeeedy Gonzales

Could be possible that the beemer rider had a better view, or observed earlier?

It's very easy to overtake bikes and cars on what appears (to them) to be a blind right hander (or left hander sometimes) when all you've done is observed that there's nothing coming well before the bend, from another angle. i.e. it's blind just before you go into it but you could see the road ahead was clear a long way before that if you'd been looking carefully enough.

Sveedy mate...it was a blind left hander. There's no way anyone could tell it was clear unless they had x-ray vision on account of the bend being obscured by 17 million tonnes of hillside.

I've drawn it out...see below.

if u believe what bike magazines say...

the Sv650s K3/4 came 33/50 for best cornering bike...
the GS1200 came 3/50 for best cornering bike...

this test was done in ride/bike a year or two ago...

anyways...
with the height of those bikes...
mibi they can see through corners and know its safe to do dogy over takes?