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Old 21-06-07, 10:28 AM   #11
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Default Re: Does faster cornering come with experience?

In short yes it does.

4 things to concentrate on

1. Your speed should be correct for the corner and you should be in the right gear to drive the bike out of the corner on the throttle before you get into the corner as well.

2. Turn your head and look through the corner to the exit of the corner.

3. Dont go through the corner with the throttle shut or the clutch in.

4. Think about your road position, chose a position that gives you the best view through the corner.

Basically you want to get your road position, corner speed and gear correct before you start to turn, you want the suspension of the bike working to help you turn and soak up the bumps rather than loading it up with big handfuls of brake and or throttle.

That old adage slow in fast out is what you want to be working towards. Remember relax, take your time, and work on those lines and your technique, and one day you'll be as quick as Amarko5
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Old 21-06-07, 10:38 AM   #12
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I second Bath's points. Generally you will get faster with more miles behind your belt. No substitute for that (IMHO). Don't forget what may seem slow/quick to you may seems too quick/too slow to others.

I personally do not break in the corner. it's asking for troubles. Front break (as Bath said) will either make you go wide or lowside the bike (non of those is something you want to do on the roads with traffic!). Back well ... I think that the risk of highside is to big for me to take but it can sure work for others. Try to have a slightly possitive throttle all the way through the corner.

I tend to go faster around corners I know, as I would immagine most people do anyway. But not always. I love the roads around Buxton but I tend to go slower into blind bends even so I know them quite well. There are so many sheep on the roads there and I had some nasty "brown trousers, underwear and seat moments before).
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Old 21-06-07, 10:48 AM   #13
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Bath? You been using the spell checker??
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Old 21-06-07, 10:51 AM   #14
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Front brake mid bend will do one of two things:
1) Stand the bike up. You'd better be on a VERY wide road, or a race track with plenty of run off for this to happen.
2) Lowside the bike.
Certainly that's the likely result of a novice on an SV, and I'd agree that it's wise to warn them as such as you say.

But it's not always the case though.
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Old 21-06-07, 10:56 AM   #15
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4. Think about your road position, chose a position that gives you the best view through the corner.
All very true Fizz, but for a left hander this position is over to the right, but this puts you directly in the line of the oncomming corner cutter, you need not only to be able to see round the bend, but you must give yourself time to react to what you see.
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Old 21-06-07, 11:51 AM   #16
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Bath? You been using the spell checker??
Sorry mate. Just too busy multitasking and I am real sh1te at it!
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Old 21-06-07, 12:45 PM   #17
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1. adjust your suspension to suit your weight,
Leave your suspension well alone!!!! Your suspension will settle by doing what Fizzwheel is saying.

Get confident with the bike first and get plenty of miles under your belt before even thinking about touching it. Unless you know what to expect with sussy adjustment it's just something to confuse you. Chances are you'll never notice the difference.

Fizzwheel, baph etc are all right. Slow in fast out.

Here's an extra tip for you. Once you've set your speed and riding thru - mentally say "relax, relax, relax"

EDIT: Tip - use the limit point and make sure you can stop in the distance you can see.

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All very true Fizz, but for a left hander this position is over to the right, but this puts you directly in the line of the oncomming corner cutter, you need not only to be able to see round the bend, but you must give yourself time to react to what you see.
Bang on. Be prepared to give up position for cars cutting the corner.

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Old 21-06-07, 12:58 PM   #18
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EDIT: Tip - use the limit point and make sure you can stop in the distance you can see.
First thing I had drummed into me by my dad when I started driving and then I had it drummed into me again when I started riding.

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Bang on. Be prepared to give up position for cars cutting the corner.
Agreed, also watch for other bikers doing the same thing. Especially on popular "bike" roads.
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Old 21-06-07, 01:02 PM   #19
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If you NEED to scrub speed mid bend, LIGHTLY use the rear, as that encourages the bike to turn in more. Too much though & the back end will step out.
Advanced stuff Baph for someone with limited miles. Banking more (countersteering) does the same thing. The circumf of the tyre is decreased and slows you down and turns the bike quicker.
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Certainly that's the likely result of a novice on an SV, and I'd agree that it's wise to warn them as such as you say.

But it's not always the case though.
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