Everybody lets be a bit honest

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=141589

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Fizz and Hindle, Yes but in every situation you are only hearing one side of the story and not the full circumstances Please try and understand where I am coming from.
It just seems unfair that the other party can't give their version or reasons for their actions. You are trying to make a constructive opinion and give advice with half a story which isn't always correct.There is always two sides to a story and then the truth
By all means pour as much sympathy as you want but sympathy does not sort the problem or give an answer.

But if you were talking to a mate down the pub that had just split from his wife or whatever, you would give him support and advice...and you would only be hearing his side of the story?

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

But if you were talking to a mate down the pub that had just split from his wife or whatever, you would give him support and advice...and you would only be hearing his side of the story?

But you know that mate. Would you offer a stranger on the bus advice?

[jamesterror]

If you don't contribute to a thread, only negative actions the topic itself thats your opinion whether you want to make it known or not, some as you have made it known, others will ignore it and carry to browse the forums?

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by petevtwin650

But you know that mate. Would you offer a stranger on the bus advice?

A lot of us know eachother on here though.
Yeah it was a personal thing to put up but I've thought of the forum as a community I don't see how it's any different to 'I have a new job', 'I've lost my job', 'so & so is ill' it's just un bike related advice/conversation/news. If I don't like a thread I just don't read it.

(not an attack at you pete, just commenting)

Originally Posted by petevtwin650

But you know that mate. Would you offer a stranger on the bus advice?

Probably not the best person to ask as I am always offering strangers advice! And get paid for it!! But yeh, if someone said something to me on a bus and asked for advice...and I didn't get the axe murderer vibe...then yeah I probably would give them my views.

I see where you are coming from but I do think this is a bit of a different situation. Sometimes it is much easier to open up to people on something like this as you are not face to face. I personally find it very difficult to express my emotions face to face with anyone and gradually I am trying to sort that out.

If someone posting something up here allows them to "get it out" and start solving the problem as opposed to letting it fester into something far bigger than it needs to be, ie leading to depression etc etc, then I don't see the harm. Infact, I see it as a positive.

These kind of threads are kept to IB and don't pop up anywhere else on the forum so like Fizz said, providing they stick to the forum rules, I don't see the harm.

(I am in no way flaming either you Pete, or DT as I can see your point of view)

[ophic]

As you've now done here, its a good idea imho to start a new thread to comment on another thread, rather than derail it. It'd be helpful to have the original thread's title included in the comment thread though.

Originally Posted by Dave20046

A lot of us know eachother on here though.
Yeah it was a personal thing to put up but I've thought of the forum as a community I don't see how it's any different to 'I have a new job', 'I've lost my job', 'so & so is ill' it's just un bike related advice/conversation/news. If I don't like a thread I just don't read it.

(not an attack at you pete, just commenting)

Agreed Dave, if it were someone I knew I would offer support, maybe not advice as I'm pants at that , but so many people only know the persona that member projects. Neio is a perfect example of this. On site he was a kn0b, but in person are really nice quiet bloke. So offering advice, as opposed to good wishes or commiserations, could well be flawed.

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

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But this is not just the SV650org its the internet open to billions of people and things posted can be read by anybody and possibly related back to partners ,friends or family. Not necessarily a nice way for the second party to find out about their private life being discussed by people they don't know. It is not just the person making the post you should consider.

I appreciate that times change and todays generation may want to be more open,alas it is not just todays generation that reads the internet therefore if you post a private and personal subject and get a bit of criticism for your actions surely this has got to be expected if you chose to bare your soul
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It worries me greatly when people are so open about their private lives on the internet where it can be seen by so many! The fact that it's in writing can get people into all sorts of hot water! And if someone quotes it it's more or less there forever (unless you go to all the bother of asking a mod to delete it!) - the old adage always springs to mind "loose lips sink ships"

I could probably have spent hours posting about some of the recent disasters I have had in my life (as DT knows all about - sometimes he has had to put up with my sob stories when I see him - but at least what is said is generally in confidence!)

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

Isnt that the whole reason we post under the anonimity of a forum name?

But most people on here do at some point meet up -I'd be mortified if everyone knew my most personal life problems

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

But if you were talking to a mate down the pub that had just split from his wife or whatever, you would give him support and advice...and you would only be hearing his side of the story?

But you wouldn't be standing in the pub making a public announcement would you

I really don`t have a problem with people looking for advice when it`s on something as important as this obv is to Chris. No, I wouldn`t post anything about my personal life but I have used friends from the org when I`ve needed a shoulder and for that help I am eternally grateful. I could see that Chris was hurting and he needed to know that people here were feeling for him and sometimes just finding out that others have been thru exactly the same experience does help you to feel better.

I can agree with DT to a point..... Yes, I feel that there are a small group of "please look at me" self masturbatory threads and those I choose not to read and in honesty I cringe! However I don`t think Chris`s post can be compared to those. He is not an attention seeker and is going thru a genuine crisis and needs to be able to sound off. Sometimes by talking and writing things down we stumble across answers or something that makes us sit back and think "yes... you`re right and thats what I`ll do to help me get thru this".

Good luck Chris and you know that there are a fair few of us nearby so if you fancy arranging an impromtu meet just shout out x