RFID to track your every move...

It could never happen here you're all saying, but what if the world as we know will soon come to an end. Not Armageddon, but a very different world to the one we all know and love so much. If TPTB knew that such a dramatic shift was going to happen don't you think they'd take measures to ensure they could control the population.
RFID could monitor all movement in and around public buildings and spaces. If we all had to use public transport then it's quite feasible that they could monitor the movement of all chip implanted people. Like sheep, our Shepards has realised the flock is too big to have the dog chasing us.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Razor

...what if the world as we know will soon come to an end.

what if it doesn't though?

you'll look awefully silly



and if it really does, there's always vigilantism

Can't really say I'm bothered to be honest, I have to wear an ID card with an RFID chip embedded every day I'm at work to gain access to buildings and the trust of our customers.

[Spiderman]

Firstly...PMSL at some of those pics.. Excellent.

Originally Posted by glade

.....I use RFID in my factory to track inventory....

Ah i'm glad theres someone here who is aware of and understands this technology. Good news.
I have no issue waht so ever with passive RFID systems used for stock control or logistics of freight.

Its where they put these items that concerns me. And how long they remain active for.
If all the chips were rendered inactive to any sytems once they reached their final RFID reader piont then no problem, but why do they remain active on items on my shelves at home?

Good post btw, nice to have some of your input as you work with them. I only ever encountered the older bulkier types when i did shop security myself many years ago.

Originally Posted by northwind

Hang on Spidey, are you implying that the Gillette thing is a government conspiracy? I think you're reaching a bit with the VIP bugs thing too, RFID does have those creepy big brother connotations but it's ace for that sort of thing. I'm looking forward to living in sci-fi with a credit card implanted in my wrist.

LOL, no Northy dude. Sorry my bad for jumping from one thing to another.
I'm not suggesting that any Govt have conspired with Gillette or Tesco or Asda in any of these things. However with the ever increasing accesss to (and loss of) our personal info and new laws giving many govt agencies access to this data and more, then i'm sure if wanted it they'd get their hands on it.
And this is the rub for me. For all the effort involved in tracking so many RFIDs just how much benefit is it to them? I just dont get it.

Oh and you would enjoy the idea of the credit card implant i'm sure. After all you'd also be the first to welcome our alien-robot overlords on their arrival you nutjob!

Originally Posted by wyrdness

Are you just trying to wind us up here?

I wish i was buddy. Its all true.

Originally Posted by Well Oiled

So are the RFID tags sewn into the garments as spidey says or are they just on the tags that you remove efter buying it?

The RFIDs are in the material somewhere.
Tags are pointless as they can come off and RFID is often used as a "start to finish tracking system" not just for the whole item but some of its component parts too thru the manufacturing process.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

you would notice if they were in your clothes, they're usually a couple of inches square in order to provide enough length of metal for the aerial to be functional

I guess the ones you work with are but there is a lot of choice for various applications i guess.
\for example...
http://www.boycottgillette.com/aboutrfid.html
That was the size in 2003
and by 2005 they were ..
http://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/030902.html
&
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=103

So no, you wouldnt know they were in your clothes.

Originally Posted by Razor

It could never happen here you're all saying, but what if the world as we know will soon come to an end. Not Armageddon, but a very different world to the one we all know and love so much. If TPTB knew that such a dramatic shift was going to happen don't you think they'd take measures to ensure they could control the population.
RFID could monitor all movement in and around public buildings and spaces. If we all had to use public transport then it's quite feasible that they could monitor the movement of all chip implanted people. Like sheep, our Shepards has realised the flock is too big to have the dog chasing us.

Ah someone who has a pont of view on why they would benefit from it. Thanks Razor, its given me some food for thought.

Speaking of food... worryingly some scientists who have looked at this issue from another angle are concerned about the health implications.

In the US, at least 300 consumer products, including sunscreen, toothpaste and shampoo are now made using nanotechnology, according to a Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars report...

...Non-profit policy group, the International Center for Technology Assessment, is suing the FDA, calling for more oversight of nanotechnology.

"Nano means more than just tiny. It means these materials can be fundamentally different, exhibiting chemical and physical properties that are drastically different," says George Kimbrell, staff attorney at the group. "The consumer is being made the guinea pig."

More here
http://technology.newscientist.com/c...-products.html

Now if this stuff is getting into our bodies by design or accident isnt that something else to worry about. We could all be walking about with huundreds of ingested RFIDs in years to coem and not even know about it.

Maybe it'll turn us all into cyborgs, lol.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

So no, you wouldnt know they were in your clothes.

my god, and i was about to go and wear my new shirt tomorrow without putting it in the microwave first...

from your own link:

The primary features of this revolutionary µ-Chip are as follows.
(1) A RFID IC chip measuring only 0.4mm X 0.4mm with built-in antenna Despite its extremely small size, this µ-Chip has a built-in antenna to permit contactless communications (at very close proximity) with other devices without using an external antenna.

see the slight caveat: "at very close proximity"

keep an eye out for the guys with a barcode scanner trying to shuffle up to within 10cm of you on the tube, the ray-bans give them away:



the damn interesting article only describes how rfid could in theory open an avenue for invasion of privacy, no facts, no actual examples or evidence of it occurring at all... what they are suggesting is that someone, somewhere, is going to be keeping a database of billions of purchases? what possible use would a list of someone's grocery shopping be to anyone? if the authorities were really desperate to find out if you were buying too many carrots they already know your credit card details and when you paid for your food, the stores will have records of what they sold when, copies of receipts etc, put two and two together (the answer is not five) and they already have all the information they would glean from using rfid to track your shopping habits...

as for "boycott gillette" i'm sure the information they hand out is unbiased (insert even more sarcastic smiley than here) - and any conspiracy group whose slogan is "i'd rather grow a beard" is obviously ****ing nuts

I think the point is that companies that spend the money on RFID will take whatever steps they can to maximise the profit of them, with no thought to our privacy. As for tracking kids, that's just sick. I thought it was interesting that in this Meridith case they used mobile signals to find out who was in the specific area at the time; I didn't know they were allowed to store this information. Scary.

[tigersaw]

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

I thought it was interesting that in this Meridith case they used mobile signals to find out who was in the specific area at the time; I didn't know they were allowed to store this information. Scary.

The fact that most people carry a personal tracker accessable to the law enforcement agencies has been a godsend for them.First time I knew of it used was in the Soham murder enquiry to try and trap Huntley.