New Riders and Big Bikes?

Originally Posted by Kinvig

You saw a bike briefly & decided that the owner was new to riding & on a bike that was out of his league. You never actually saw his licence so you're only ASSUMING.

I was assuming, yes...

It could be that he'd just bought the bike and was upgrading and therefore was learning its quirks. Or it could've been a test ride. Or he was going to sell it and was trying not to curse himself and crash it.

... Because I dont know anyone who would want to coast their bike around corners or roundabouts - only a newbie would do this, so I would say its safe to assume he was new to riding.

And I doubt you'd want to sell a brand new Gixxer, being as you've probably just bought it.

Either way - dont ride a bike out of your league! Or at least ride it as if you are learning to ride the bike, and not attempt to look cool and instead make yourself look like a tit, and potentially, break an ankle in doing so.

The bike coulda jumped outta gear and gone into neutral hence his coasting around...

...happened to me when I neglected my chain for a little bit Anywho, yea, there are people out there who are a bit nervous, specialy with slow speed riding where balance, a few revs and carefull use of the rear brake are needed...something not really practised along fast sweeping A-roads!

Of course, he may well be a relativly new rider, or he may just not cover many miles (mind you, neither does my dad per year but I dont doubt his slow riding skills for a moment, he can U-turn my bike with more confidence than I can) so is rusty. And if I was going slow on a bike with 160 bhp, I'd be carefull too

On the toher hand, he may well be a "all gear, no idea" rider. Seen a few of those!

Matt

buying bikes you dont know how to ride is something any Noob to riding does.. i was the same on my SV as i was on my DT125 i was a noob just because it is a very fast bike doesnt account for anything.. ive ran rings around some gixxer owners, but the like taking there time rather than acting like nobs which IMO is fine,....

the only type that really get on my noggin is WEEKEND WARRIORS ! ! ! they annoy the hell out of me.

Originally Posted by lylej

the only type that really get on my noggin is WEEKEND WARRIORS ! ! ! they annoy the hell out of me.

Yes; those that just try and go as fast as they can, without having ever really understood what it takes to go fast. If they did, they'd realise how little room for error there is and would back off. Also, you can tell these sort of poeple as they hesitate before filtering, if they filter at all

My dad is a weekend warrior now, or rather a wednesday night warrior. Still, if you come across him, dont try and outride him...he'll make you look silly.

Matt

why should you not go out and buy the biggest fastest bike you can. A bike will only go as fast and you make it. Some bikes are more forgiving than others. I have known people who have come along to the IAM who have been riding for years and are rubbish and others who have just started riding and have real talent. those with talent are few and far between. Most people get better with practice, some are just practising the wrong stuff. It just seems that people assume you can ride well if you are on a gixxer or r1 - not always the case.

Originally Posted by kitkat

why should you not go out and buy the biggest fastest bike you can. A bike will only go as fast and you make it.

Becuase humans are stupid and most of them cannot be trusted to ride properly. A lot of new riders (like a bloke at work here) are all about power power power how fast can i go in a straight line......

Needless to say, riding home with him one night, i left him standing, without even trying or realising.

Originally Posted by lylej

buying bikes you dont know how to ride is something any Noob to riding does.. i was the same on my SV as i was on my DT125 i was a noob just because it is a very fast bike doesnt account for anything.. ive ran rings around some gixxer owners, but the like taking there time rather than acting like nobs which IMO is fine,....

the only type that really get on my noggin is WEEKEND WARRIORS ! ! ! they annoy the hell out of me.

Yup there were a few of them out on the track yesterday, I have never seen an R1 go slow before, he was in the other noice group but I watched him do a few laps, I'm not fast yet but I will be.

Originally Posted by bluethunder

Yup there were a few of them out on the track yesterday, I have never seen an R1 go slow before, he was in the other noice group but I watched him do a few laps, I'm not fast yet but I will be.

me and kevin schwantz think that 90% of racing is between your ears.. ( in your head ) lol, its only when you freak out you run into trouble..

Very funny story. I met a guy on a brand new 07 R6 last year who had just passed his test. Looked very awkward trying to park and move off.

we alll have to start somewhere peeps!! why should he not have a GSXR from day one?? do i detect a hint of jelousy?? so slagging him off makes you fel better. He has passed his test and EARNT the right to buy and ride whatever he can afford and insure.

Like Kit Kat sad , there is such a thing as throtle control! I tip toe arround some roundabouts in the winter mainly because of the wet slippy roads and the chance of Diesel being all over them does that make mea tw*t on a new bike?? no it means i am cautious and dont want to ruin my pride and joy.

Maybe we should just all watch each other on a wet slipppy oundabout and slag each other off ????? We ALL have to start somewhere and learn better skills, and it never stops no matter what bike we are on!!