need a bulletproof 4x4

Hilux, i fix mine with a hammer. dont get a surf though, get a pickup with truckman top. the surfs are known for being not as reliable as the pickup, as they put a turbo onto the normal pickup engine and it negates the pickups reliability.

normally a few for sale here http://www.elite4x4.co.uk/

yeah when i said bulletproof, i generally meant reliable, i'm not heading to the gaza strip anytime soon, As for off road capabilites, i'd rather have them than not, and get somewhere and then be stuck to taking the road.

I looked at them old nissan patrols, thought about a surf, but only for about a minute, its not a real hilux in my book. What about Mitsubishi shoguns/pajeros? And the toyota land cruiser. The defender 110 would be my fave, but its just the price, as they hold them really well, but i've got an old farmer mate would said he will be able to teach me to fix it with hammer and a spanner

We are planning to go through spain and into morroco, mauritania etc, as many safe places in africa as possible really, it all depends on how much money we can get together between now and next summer, the more money we have, the better the car, but the less we spend on the car, the futher we go,

i do like them tent tops you can get for the landys but there over a grand which is quite an expense, unless i can get a second hand one.

TO be honest I'd go for a subaru. There's nothing as reliable, they're 4wd and it'll be cheaper to run which is really worth focusing on. The forester has lots of ground clearance (for all but the dirtiest stuff) and as it's pretty ugly so it's dirt cheap. Even a legacy would be more than up to the job. For £1500 you could get a gem

forget any land rovers mate they will leave you stuck somewhere, only accountants in Australia drove discos for the look.

gotta be a older hilux or land cruiser, they are so tough its not even funny and they are cheap as chips to buy.

yes i am biased too but i wouldn't sell them if i didn't think they were the best.

[embee]

...as they say in Aussie land, if you want to go out into the bush, get a Land Rover. If you want to come back again, get a Toyota.

Daihatsu Fourtrack.

I had a J reg 2.8 LWB 7 seater Turbo Diesel - handled really well, pulled a fully laden box trailer and barely noticed the extra weight, actually was reasonably economic fuel wise unless you were flooring it up the motorway and was completely reliable - good ol' Jap engineering.

Often gets overlooked - but if you aim for the version just before the 'Fatboy' (with the extra flared wheel arches etc) you can pick one up for a decent price...

... oooh yeah - and that model also had the little spherical horozontal alignment bubble thingy that'll let you know how far you are leaning over and whether you're about to roll it!

yeah i like them land cruisers, looks pretty up to the job, the earlier boxy one too.

Anyone know if they did a non-turbo land cruiser? just thinking about realiability, one less thing to go wrong

Japanese.

Land Rover and Jeep have a bad rep.

Cheap Suzukis if you don't mind the hairdresser look.

Dunno what the Koreans are like.

[skeetly]

I love old landies.
They are cheap to fix but thats just as well. They need fixing regularly. If you took my 109gs to africa you would very likely come back with a different landrover with all the bits you would need to replace; no joke.
And then theres the petrol.....
Get a cheap jap innit. Ahem or a bike