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Old 22-07-08, 10:56 PM   #21
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Premeditated Murder?
Something like.

If the landowner had given permission for people to ride there then there's no crime been comitted by the victim.

My condolences to the family.
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Old 23-07-08, 11:24 AM   #22
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Sorry, not fussed.

Yes the wire is BAD BAD news...

But then if the lad had been wearing a lid, he'd probably be alive still.

At 17, if you can't work out that its not a good idea to ride without a lid, then i have no sympathy. Another hooligan off the beaten track/road as far as im concerned.

Although the person/people who done the wire should have their balls cut off with blunt siccors.
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Old 23-07-08, 11:47 AM   #23
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why do you think he was a hooligan? Apparently bikes have been riding there with the owners permission for years.

The wire was apparently at waist height. and caught up in his bars throwing him off.
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Old 23-07-08, 05:08 PM   #24
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At 17, if you can't work out that its not a good idea to ride without a lid, then i have no sympathy. Another hooligan off the beaten track/road as far as im concerned.
Ok so riding without a lid is a bad idea. Don't see how this makes him a hooligan since he was riding in a perfectly legal way, as far as what we've read says.

In fact, a lads been murdered and you're comment basically says "nice one". *****.
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Old 23-07-08, 05:20 PM   #25
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If you read the lad died from serious head injuries. Only hooligans (phrase with pinch of salt) would be the kind of people to be riding around on a bike with no lid, fast enough to hit a wire, and die of head injuries.

If he was wearing a lid.....................?

Don't know them so can't feel any sympathy really. I see young lad bombing around on a bike, and killed by someone (im sure the wire wasn't intending to kill someone, only injure).

Im not saying at all (its not murder), im just saying from what i've read, although the issue of the wire is terrible, shocking in fact, but the rider wasn't exactly being safe on a motorcycle either.

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Old 23-07-08, 05:30 PM   #26
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Probably half of everyone who's ever ridden a bike has learnt on a heap of a field bike belting round some bit of out of the way land. Why does wearing a helmet change anything except the risk, which is your own lookout.

Hooliganism = anti-social behaviour, annoying people, doing harm.

He was riding his bike, in a place with permission. You can die of head injuries at quite low speed.

A wire is hardly the most visible thing, especially if it's woodland.
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Old 23-07-08, 05:48 PM   #27
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Sorry, not fussed.

Yes the wire is BAD BAD news...

But then if the lad had been wearing a lid, he'd probably be alive still.

At 17, if you can't work out that its not a good idea to ride without a lid, then i have no sympathy. Another hooligan off the beaten track/road as far as im concerned.

Although the person/people who done the wire should have their balls cut off with blunt siccors.


you stupid t*at. no 1 deserves to die how would you like it if it was 1 of your kids.

show some respect!!!! he was in a field not on a public road with kids people etc.

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Old 23-07-08, 05:49 PM   #28
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the artical dosnt rely say if bikes were alowwed on the field or not.

still some 1 needs to be punished.

wat a shame.

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Old 23-07-08, 08:15 PM   #29
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It was Ryans employers that told me that he was riding there with permission. This may be or not the truth. It would appear the wire was put there to stop unauthorised access to the fields.

Ryan apparently knew this dirt track well and rode it regularly when ever he visited his dad. However, his visits were fortnightly. I would not be surprised to find out the wire was placed there since his last visit. That it was not placed maliciously and it was a terrible accident.
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Old 23-07-08, 08:27 PM   #30
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You dont have to wear a lid on private land.Until quite recently it was common to see official ACU trials riders wearing cloth caps and no gloves.I suppose they were all hooligans who deserve to be killed as well?
The last fatal bike crash I saw was wearing proper gear,but no chest protector.It was the chest impact that killed him.His fault as well?
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