Serbs capture Father Ted

looks more like an off-duty Father Christmas doing the 'hat' trick from what I can see. But that's just an opinion on his appearance, not his benevolence or skills as a magician (or lack of).

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by G

Although to do with that guy and the real story.......War is War. He ordered the killing of a religious following that was causing his country at the time a real problem.

War is waged against armed enemies. Slaughtering unarmed civilians is something entirely different, which is why the UN thinks that it's a little bit naughty.

"Race of people" when applied to the Balkans? Quantify that a little neio... religion and race are a little bit different... and there's the small matter of Turkey in between the Balkans and the middle east. In fact as I understand it the majority of Muslims in those states were "converted" by the expansion of the ottoman empire. Bit of a different situation to the Arab states.

Anyway, the "Arab/European - know the difference" poster aside...

Why can anyone dislike any religion is beyond me, it's a little daft to blame a religion, the problems aren't started by what is in mostly all religions, basically peaceful scripture. The wars are started by people using religion as a tool, in the attempt to gain power.

Christianity is guilty of it, Islam is guilty of it.

This might come over as a little more of a balanced arguement than people are used to, but I still advocate setting hook-handed nutjob clerics on fire. (before anyone accuses me of being a pillow-biter..)

Originally Posted by neio79

I have my reasons!!

Please explain! There is literally not one reason that you should dislike Islam simply because there are a few crazies.

It would be like saying that all Christians should be shot because of the Westboro Baptist Church.

Don't be silly, mate.

Originally Posted by chakraist

Please explain! There is literally not one reason that you should dislike Islam simply because there are a few crazies.

It would be like saying that all Christians should be shot because of the Westboro Baptist Church.

Don't be silly, mate.

I dont have to of need to explain to anyone why i dont. Yes a lot has to do wit hthe way things are in the world , and yes i think a lot is down to Islam. Of course not all are like that , but i have a distrust of Islam.

Lets just leave it at that as it will just open a can of worms and a lot of people getting on their soap box to flame me.And i really cant be bothered to Argue over it.

Originally Posted by timwilky

No I think it is wrong to point fun at him, it belittles his atrocities and reduces them to a sidenote associated with a man who looks a bit like Father Ted.

We still poke fun at Hitler and his crew (Think of bike sketch etc.) But the world has had near on 70 years to accept they were a bunch of murdering bigots who thought genocide was acceptable. There are still a lot in the former Yugoslavia who still think of Milošević, Karadzic and Mladić as heros.

Until the guys behind the Bosnian war crimes (On all sides) have their day in court. The only comments any onlooker should be making is to condemn their crimes.

Has to be said that I agree for the most part.

However, two mute points: If you ignore his bigoted genocidal views then Hitler/Goebells and the propaganda machine were actually the 'best' (in terms of what he acomplished and where he managed to take Germany) and most efficient leaders the 18th, 19th and 20th century have seen.

To go from a country that's crippled to being the (arguably) 2nd or 3rd strongest in the world, in 7 or 8 years, is pretty good going....

Too bad he spoiled it by being a tw*t and killing all those Jews.

Point two: Maybe humour is some peoples way of dealing with the scale of what actually occured. Some people deal with death by joking to releave tension/pain, some morn, some mope and some are arses. I don't know.

Finally, I have to say that Amnesty International are actually one of the biggest bunch of hypocrites that are going... Sure, they have lots of information about these nasty people, but how many times do they go in with their "own" views on what's right, siding with who they percieve the "guilty party" to be -> oh, that's similar to Bush and his cronies and the most recent war on Iraq! Some people I'm sure are fantastic, but the majority of their goons (from my personal experience and interractions with them which is quite a lot as I used to be a member) are biased sheep...

(note: I abhor war, I think the best way to solve all the current issues would be in the style of Ali-G).

/me ducks out now.