Another one for the cyclists... Recommendations?

They'll be fine then.

Disc brakes only really come into their own in very muddy conditions really, as they dont get clogged up with mud or have their performance reduced.

It might be worth checking if the hubs will take a disc to give the option of an upgrade if you think its worthwhile later.

Dont get me wrong, disc brakes really are awesome, with the performance and feel of a motorbike, but you dont seem to need them.

Cheers Miles

[northwind]

If you do want discs, the Revolution Cuillin is only £30 more in the sale... But it doesn't get especially good reviews. The specialised doesn't have disc-compatible hubs it seems. v-brakes have always done the job for me, not too concerned about that myself, but then I grew up with enormously heavy raleigh mountain bikes with terrible brakes. Good pads on rim brakes are pretty effective.

[fizzwheel]

I think disks have become the latest be all fashion accessory. You'll stop fine without them unless you do a hell of alot of muddy off road riding IMHO you dont need them. Disk brakes on cheap bikes are normaly IMHO all they are cracked up to be.

Put it this way if I can lock the front wheel on my road bike / it has enough front brake power to endo and spit me over the bars with convential brakes and pads you dont need disk's...

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I think disks have become the latest be all fashion accessory. You'll stop fine without them unless you do a hell of alot of muddy off road riding IMHO you dont need them. Disk brakes on cheap bikes are normaly IMHO all they are cracked up to be.

Yeah, mechanic disks aren't all that. The main gain of them is the feel you get which brings me to...

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Put it this way if I can lock the front wheel on my road bike / it has enough front brake power to endo and spit me over the bars with convential brakes and pads you dont need disk's...

You're missing the point. Power is nothing without control. Shoving a stick in your spokes stops your wheel quickly but it doesn't make a very good brake.

Mech discs / rims brakes can be a bit on / off, hydraulics give a beautiful feel so you can brake as little or as much as you like.

Road bikes dont come with disc brakes, for 2 reasons.

They're heavier.

The benefits are much less on the road, away from mud. (although the brakes on my road bike are lethal in the rain.)

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Miles

You're missing the point. Power is nothing without control. Shoving a stick in your spokes stops your wheel quickly but it doesn't make a very good brake.

Completely agree, but alot of people think "Oh I need disks to stop quick rim brakes are sh*te" the point I was trying to make ( badly I know ) was that this isnt necessarily so...

I was using Cantilever brakes up until January this year, on a 10 year old bike, with 10 year old rubber pads, and 10 year old tyres.

Its not about the bike 90% of the time, its about the rider. Granted the bike makes it easier, but at certain price points, you have to discount certain things or else everything else loses quality. Hence choosing a hardtail at £600.

[northwind]

Gah... Went in today, and they literally just sold out of all the sale models I was interested in I'd all but bought the Hardrock. They still have the Cadence Pro Disc at £250 which is tempting but I think I'll maybe never forgive it for being my second choice Plus, it's a girl's bike, though exactly how you can tell i don't know, the top tube is fractionally lower is all. So as long as nobody reads the website, that'll be fine.

They did have this, which I'd not noticed on the website before but which looks pretty solid...

http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwP...c008923c009316

It's fairly heavy and the forks seemed pretty horrible, but it's got everything I want- big granny-bike mudguards, road-biased fat tyres, etc- as standard and at a good price. The ergonomics are horrible as standard but it's got an adjustable stem. They wouldn't let me adjust it in the shop though. Could be a good option, I've got 22 hours to decide

Found a Cannondale F6 Disc on local Gumtree, with some nice add ons, going to have a pop at that, looks pretty great. But no online reviews that I can find... It'd need a little work to make it what I want but the spec seems far superior to anything else I've looked at. Can't find much about these though, which does bother me slightly.