Damn. Another 3 points then.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Bluepete

My laser, for some reason, don't seem to work on bikes

Pete

Good man, must be a pain trying to aim it properly...

Bluepete - the good kind.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

Bluepete - the good kind.

Lets not get carried away with this .... limits are there for all ..... whether you agree with them or not

Experts set rules that take in account potential road conditions, other road users (ie. the differential in speed of all users), etc, etc, etc ..... believing that 'I know this road, and this is how I value the speed limit' is just plan niave ..... as is 'well, a bike narrower isn't it' ....

I'm not saying stick to the speed limits rigidly .... but use a bit of common sense ....

Bluepete wouldn't be helping anyone if he let ALL motorcyclist do what they want to do .....

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by LK-SV

'I know this road, and this is how I value the speed limit' is just plan niave .....

It seems reasonable to me.

I want to be somewhere. I don't want to die or end up paying fine... what is risk of either. Only go as fast as you can see to brake down to the speed limit

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Only go as fast as you can see to brake down to the speed limit

Urm .... not really !!!

Not really the way to ride IMO ... where's the comfort zone if you are looking for Police cars all the time ... where's the real concentration .... wheres the respect for other road users .... wheres the time to look for other potential hazards ..... etc .... etc ...

I could go on .... but fear only time and experience, not my ramblings will make some people change how they view the roads we all share

Originally Posted by LK-SV

Urm .... not really !!!

Not really the way to ride IMO ... where's the comfort zone if you are looking for Police cars all the time ... where's the real concentration .... wheres the respect for other road users .... wheres the time to look for other potential hazards ..... etc .... etc ...

I could go on .... but fear only time and experience, not my ramblings will make some people change how they view the roads we all share

Glad to see your 4months riding experience has turned you into the most experienced rider on the site.

If you are alert and looking for potential hazards it's no more effort to spot a police car/speed camera than it is to spot pedestrians, trucks, and stray cats.

Originally Posted by LK-SV

Lets not get carried away with this .... limits are there for all ..... whether you agree with them or not

Experts set rules that take in account potential road conditions, other road users (ie. the differential in speed of all users), etc, etc, etc ..... believing that 'I know this road, and this is how I value the speed limit' is just plan niave ..... as is 'well, a bike narrower isn't it' ....

I'm not saying stick to the speed limits rigidly .... but use a bit of common sense ....

Bluepete wouldn't be helping anyone if he let ALL motorcyclist do what they want to do .....

I agree here. I rarely ever exceed 85 mph. even rarer will I exceed 90 mph! In london I rarely exceed 60 mph. I just dont want to have the hassle. Around sussex ther are so many undercover police vehicles, it makes it not nice to thrash about, you are just scared. My dad enjoys riding a little 400cc honda over a 750cc GSXR for this reason, alot of the time. He can work hard and not get into lisence-loosing, or even points-collecting territory

Originally Posted by Sudoxe

Glad to see your 4months riding experience has turned you into the most experienced rider on the site.

LOL ....

4 Months riding the SV .... but 15 years on the roads, many in high performance cars .... (Lotus Elise, Audi TT Quattro, Audi 3.2 V6 Quattro) ..... its all the same

.... and your point was ??

Originally Posted by Sudoxe

Glad to see your 4months riding experience has turned you into the most experienced rider on the site.

If you are alert and looking for potential hazards it's no more effort to spot a police car/speed camera than it is to spot pedestrians, trucks, and stray cats.

stray cats?!?!

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Alpinestarhero

I see many many people though who come past at 70-80 on the north circ (40 and 50 mph limits) and no-one gets pulled, not alot of police presence there really. you take your chances, 99% of the time you get away with it, but sometimes you get caught

Gotta say, on parts of the north circ where its set at 40 i only ever do 40 thru the speed cameras.....as does almost every other car,bike,van,truck. Its a silly limit set to raise revenue mainly.
Approaching the Ace i have been known to hit 90 odd if i'm in a rush to get there...or the road is empty and i feel like a blat. It opens into almost 6 lanes at one point and if those lanes are virtually empty, well...

Originally Posted by LK-SV

Have to say .... sorry to hear that ..... but 78 in a 50 is taking the pee ..... you're very lucky he didn't take it further ...... a biker in this weather doing those sort of speeds ..... you'd be lucky to keep your licence I reckon ....

I agree, he was lucky but it dont mean the limits are right.

Originally Posted by Fizzy Fish

He may have been 'taking the pee' in terms of the law, but my point is that the law is sometimes a bit OTT, and it doesn't necessarily mean that he was 'taking the pee' in terms of dodgy riding.

Rules have been set so they can be enforced, but IMHO they don't get at the real problems that cause accidents (e.g. inattention and carelessness). Yes of course there are accidents caused by loss of control due to speed, I totally accept that. However most people regularly speed, and some regularly speed a lot and guess what nothing happens to the great majority - which tells you that it isn't as simple as speed = danger.

Just like the wise lady says, we all ride within our capability for the most part, not some arbitrary number set to take into account the lowest form of unintelligent and switched off driver.

I can ride fast and a cat can run into the road and i'll wipe out...my fault for going fast or the cats for running out? If i;d been going a little faster still the cat would have run out behind me so speed itself isn't always the worst thing that could happen.