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Old 28-12-09, 06:58 PM   #21
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twas what suzuki say.
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Old 28-12-09, 07:14 PM   #22
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In advert, sure
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Old 28-12-09, 07:16 PM   #23
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well if you know better than suzuki then good for you
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Old 28-12-09, 07:36 PM   #24
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No but I remember someone weighing both frames and getting close enough same number. I think it was TWF on svrider but I could be wrong.

As for stiffness, I've never heard of anyone with a rig to test it. Only other bet is putting entire frame dimensions into an FEA package, which I could do but I don't have the computer power or measuring devices for. And it would still be an approximation. Otherwise you might as well rely on people saying something feels stiffer and that's about as reliable as predicting weather next tuesday by spitting on your boot.

I hear some people say 2gen is stiffer when they mean the rear suspension, the linkage is different so maybe 2gen has different progression giving that effect. But I can't see how you'd put numbers on it.

And of course suzuki are 100% guaranteed to go "woohoo new lighter and stiffer frame!" rather than "we saved £50 on new frame!"
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Old 28-12-09, 07:38 PM   #25
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at the end of the day does it really matter you havnt got a pointy so why you worrying about it.
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Old 28-12-09, 08:16 PM   #26
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I'm not worried, guy asked pros and cons of EFI model or carby. For first bike I doubt he would care about couple % difference in stiffness but you did say it is stiffer and lighter.
Only reason it matters to me is if I thought pointy frame was better I would build bike around it instead of curvy frame.
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Old 28-12-09, 08:25 PM   #27
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let's be honest if you were building a bike from scratch there's better frames out there to do it with.
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Old 28-12-09, 08:27 PM   #28
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The curvey frame is a thing of beauty (apart from the swingy bit)


The pointy one.....isn't (IMO)
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