Forward facing average speed cameras

Yes Berlin, a mate of mine received a fine and points for an average speed camera set up a while back near Runcorn roadworks on the M53. Up until then I had my doubts...not any more though!

We've had some fancy new average speed cameras under test on the Redditch to Bromsgrove A448 Road for some time now. However, in the last two weeks they have turned them around 180 degrees and they now read the rear number plate rather than the front. Could be the shape of things to come??

Originally Posted by RedMacgregor

We've had some fancy new average speed cameras under test on the Redditch to Bromsgrove A448 Road for some time now. However, in the last two weeks they have turned them around 180 degrees and they now read the rear number plate rather than the front. Could be the shape of things to come??

Wasnt the reason for hte forward facing ones, that people were able to argue out of a claim due to lack of proof of a driver. You revert back to rear facing cameras and you bring back this excuse loophole. (doesnt effect bikers either way as we've got lids obviously.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

Wasnt the reason for hte forward facing ones, that people were able to argue out of a claim due to lack of proof of a driver. You revert back to rear facing cameras and you bring back this excuse loophole. (doesnt effect bikers either way as we've got lids obviously.

Didn't they change the law to get around this? Something like it's now the owner's duty to identify the driver otherwise they'll be the one who gets stuck with the fine and points.

Originally Posted by RedMacgregor

We've had some fancy new average speed cameras under test on the Redditch to Bromsgrove A448 Road for some time now. However, in the last two weeks they have turned them around 180 degrees and they now read the rear number plate rather than the front. Could be the shape of things to come??

Hmm, interesting, need to be careful on that road then.

Probably is the shape of things to come unfortunately.

[Red Herring]

Eh no....the shape of things to come is an electronic bug in every vehicle and a reader on every lampost.........or am I being paranoid? (or wishful thinking depending on which hat I'm wearing at the moment!)

My understanding is once they send an intention to prosecute you are legally bound to declare who the driver is. If you don't they just do the registered keeper for not owning up.

Don't worry about these cameras just yet as they seem to be a test site with big signs advising just testing. They've had some real wierd gear on site including additional cameras a few yards down the road from the main SPECS cameras over the carriageway to satellite dishes (hot line to DVLA??) and floodlights.

If they ever turn them on for real they'll catch me that same day as like most of the regulars on this road we ignore them.

Give it a couple more years and the speed limit will be 50mph on the majority of rural A roads in the country as they are in most of Warwickshire.

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Eh no....the shape of things to come is an electronic bug in every vehicle and a reader on every lampost.........or am I being paranoid? (or wishful thinking depending on which hat I'm wearing at the moment!)

Whats worrying is that I'm sure that was the aim of the chipped number plates that were canned not too long ago... but I openly admit to my paranoia

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Eh no....the shape of things to come is an electronic bug in every vehicle and a reader on every lampost.........or am I being paranoid? (or wishful thinking depending on which hat I'm wearing at the moment!)

The shape of things to come (I reckon) is a GPS box in every vehicle to facilitate 'pay-per-mile' road tax. As a convenient side effect, your location and max speed / average speed will be recorded by big brother and fines generated automatically. Won't happen in the next 10 years I reckon... but eventually.

Norwich Union... err, Aviva, already offer this to customers looking to be part of their pilot, although they do it under the guise of 'pay-per-mile' insurance.

Originally Posted by ceeshaw

The shape of things to come (I reckon) is a GPS box in every vehicle to facilitate 'pay-per-mile' road tax. As a convenient side effect, your location and max speed / average speed will be recorded by big brother and fines generated automatically.

the day they bring that in or the tag in every lampost is the day i go and buy a lead sheet and bend it over what ever device on my bike is clocking me.
just take it off now and then and go for an easy ride