Raging!!!!!!!

Why did you give your mad neighbours your house key.... I can understand giving a key to a normal neighbour that you have got on with very very well for years. Surely if they have acted like this over a rabbit then they have acted up before?!

I'd change the lock to eradicate the possibility of 'we have spares'. If one rabit happens to die, throw it over the fence. Job Done, they got their rabbits. If they all live.... make a pie.

[hindle8907]

sounds like more hassle than its worth, its a rabbit just give it them and get your key back.
I think I would rather have my door key back from the stupid neighbour than get worked up and frustrated about 1 rabbit which your not even attached to.

Change the locks anyway. They sound like wrong 'uns. Wouldn't surprise me with all this trouble that they would copy your key!!!

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Berlin

So someone comes into your house "uninvited" whats the law in Scotland called then? I can't see it being legal if I wanter in off the street and sit on someone's sofa for a week. They'd call the police.

and I'd be arrested for?...

there is a trespass law of sorts in scotland but it does not include 'trespassing on ones property' as in english law.

It is a perpetual myth that there are no trespass laws in Scotland. Even before the recent Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, trespass has long been a delict (civil wrong) which is remediable by the remedies of interdict and damages. However, The Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 amends the Trespass (Scotland) Act 1865 and establishes a statutory right of access.

Certain types of trespass have been criminal since the Trespass (Scotland) Act 1865 was passed, an Act no-one has ever heard of. Section 3 makes it an offence for any person to lodge in any premises, or occupy or encamp on any land, being private property, without the consent of the owner or legal occupier. Admittedly this section envisages a degree of permanency which will not be present in every situation of trespass.


above taken from: http://www.siliconglen.com/Scotland/1_8.html

but there is a couple of laws that are for this purpose in scotland some of which are 'breaking and entering' and 'unlawful entry'. there is also a law which entitles the parent to 'protect children' in case of aggravated entry.

Originally Posted by Berlin

So someone comes into your house "uninvited" whats the law in Scotland called then? I can't see it being legal if I wanter in off the street and sit on someone's sofa for a week. They'd call the police.

and I'd be arrested for?...

Possibly nothing if they had a key given to them by the owner and there was no intent to steal......[/devils advocate]

Originally Posted by Bibio

but there is a couple of laws that are for this purpose in scotland some of which are 'breaking and entering' and 'unlawful entry'. there is also a law which entitles the parent to 'protect children' in case of aggravated entry.

WRONG!

No such thing as breaking and entering in Scotland. There is Theft by Housebreaking or Housebreaking with Intent to steal or Attemted Housebreaking with iIntent to steal, which are common law crimes and using a true key would NOT be constituted as housebreaking. As for the "unlawful entry" that doesn't exist either and can I have a link to the law for parents protecting children please? Or at least an Act and section???

My advice in this is that as you are on MOD property, you notify your Sgt of the situation. I take it that it would be the MP's that police this? If so, can your wife make a report to the MP's as threatening behaviour such as this can constitute a breach of the peace. I would also contact a solicitor and ask them to write a letter demanding the return of the key.

I know that it's the principle of it, but I would advise you get your wife to contact a locksmith and change locks. Then if they do gain entry to the property, it is most definately a crime.

[yorkie_chris]

You don't need a locksmith, just a screwdriver. Is cheaper

[Biker Biggles]

If the rabbit is yours and they come into your house(even with a key)and take your rabbit,I bet that is theft,Scotland or not.

[Bibio]

ok you know the law.. so i'll shut the furk up.

as to the children thing. a judge sent someone down for 6 months after coming to my door and assaulting me with a knife so i kicked the shiz out of him as my kids were there and i feared for their life. it got to court and my brief spouted some 'in the case of so and so' and the judge sent the azzhole down.

your right about housebreaking so i'll suz me gob and go back to sleep.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

If the rabbit is yours and they come into your house(even with a key)and take your rabbit,I bet that is theft,Scotland or not.

Erm, no, not now it has been posted on an open forum that there was a verbal agreement. That makes it a civil matter meaning it would have to be taken through a civil court, using solicitors.

[yorkie_chris]

What's the market value of a rabbit? FFS....

I'm going more towards eat it.