Coalition one year on, how are they doing then?

Originally Posted by thefallenangel

Bankers need their big fat chairs from pulling under them.

Don't care what job you do but how can you justify giving someone an annual bonus which is more than probably 80% of Britian will earn in their working careers is beyond me.

Indeed they do earn to much but if you realised how banks literaly make money out of nothing by using the fractional reserve system you would know where all this monopoly money comes from. funny how no one mentions the money the CENTRAL bankers make because no one knows about the people who own the game.

Fuel prices are insane but when you lost all the smoking revenue where else was it going to come from to hit masses of people?

The government is corrupt and spending our money on illegal wars (no such thing as a legal one) and alot of our money is getting syphoned off into europe, the only way to stop this is join the Lawfull Lebellion and stop paying your taxes.

If we keep playing by there rules you cant win because they own the game but there are people doing something about it instead of sitting on arses moaning.

LAWFULL REBELION google it and get involved with a group near you we need numbers...

The thing is about Governments making tough decisions is that you feel comfortable that is happening until you feel the effect. If you can manage the effect and it's a minor change like a tax blip or horror upon horrors another rise at the fuel pump, you get on with it. If it's a big change and you can't handle it you can die. Adverse change is usually OK until it affects to you.

A family friend of mine has had regular life saving and very expensive treatment for the past 10 years. She has now been told that it can no longer be afforded and it will be withdrawn. The root cause of this may well be the corrupt banking system, corrupt or incompetent governments, whatever, but the immediate decision to withdraw treatment is from the recent Health Service funding changes.

I'll ask her if the government she thinks the Govt are doing a good job and if they're making tough decisions in the right areas.

Originally Posted by markmoto

Indeed they do earn to much but if you realised how banks literaly make money out of nothing by using the fractional reserve system you would know where all this monopoly money comes from. funny how no one mentions the money the CENTRAL bankers make because no one knows about the people who own the game.



The government is corrupt and spending our money on illegal wars (no such thing as a legal one) and alot of our money is getting syphoned off into europe, the only way to stop this is join the Lawfull Lebellion and stop paying your taxes.

If we keep playing by there rules you cant win because they own the game but there are people doing something about it instead of sitting on arses moaning.

LAWFULL REBELION google it and get involved with a group near you we need numbers...

Another downside with the central banking system is that it is near impossible for a country to get out of debt, as each pound of currency in circulation is owed back to the bank of england with interest attached. So because of interest there will always be more debt than money in existance.
So basically we will have to pay our debt offs with assets (gold, oil etc)

Government corruption is so obvious yet people seem to ignore it, large amount of money given to large construction companies, if you don't believe me look what happens when they build a new hospital for instance, they take 10 of millions of £££ knock down a perfectly serviceable building, spend around 99% of the money on building a fancy new building out of fancy materials such as glass and steel but in the end we have no more doctors or nurses than before providing exactly the same level of care we had before spending the money.
Another example of this local to me (Bolton), the council are spending 700k on changing room facilities at the local "lads and girls club" for the football club, even though the existing ones are fine (less than 10 years old). Gone are they days it cost you the price of a ball to have a game of football. Yet we are getting rid of doctors and police................

Also people believing we live in a democracy, the conservatives didn't win because of their policies, they won because the papers kept slagging labour off and Cameron was on more front pages looking young and vibrant (with a touch of photo retouching), I know loads of people who voted for the conservatives and now they moan about budget cuts, did they not read the manifesto or something, no they didn't they just saw him on the front of a paper and voted for him.
If you believe we live in a democracy explain why we pay £1.40 for a litre of fuel when 99% of the population don't want to pay it....

Dont even get me started on fractional reserve banking which is nothing more than a massive pyramid scheme........

Originally Posted by The Idle Biker

A family friend of mine has had regular life saving and very expensive treatment for the past 10 years. She has now been told that it can no longer be afforded and it will be withdrawn. The root cause of this may well be the corrupt banking system, corrupt or incompetent governments, whatever, but the immediate decision to withdraw treatment is from the recent Health Service funding changes.

I'll ask her if the government she thinks the Govt are doing a good job and if they're making tough decisions in the right areas.

See my above point on corruption

I am sure your family friend would prefer to have her treatment in an older building rather than sitting in a modern fancy building without her treatment, as sad as it is the NHS is spending 100s of million on new building each year and even more updating their IT infrastructure yet people go without treatment

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by grimey121uk

Also people believing we live in a democracy, the conservatives didn't win because of their policies, they won because the papers kept slagging labour off and Cameron was on more front pages looking young and vibrant (with a touch of photo retouching), I know loads of people who voted for the conservatives and now they moan about budget cuts,

Labour were dead in the water, a leader nobody wanted, nobody voted for less popular than a fart in a lift. Getting the blame for a banking crisis, after taking us from a time of solvency and w*nking it all away on foreign escapades and idiocy.

Any party that got in were going to have to make cuts, half of me wishes to see what would have happened had labour won the election, because they could not have kept any of their promises. Strategically they're better off sat on other side slagging off everything the tories are doing, they couldn't do any better or make any fewer cuts in same shoes.

[Biker Biggles]

It matters not jot who won the election.Both parties(all three if you include jonny come lately Liberals)have demonstrated their inability to run the country over the last half century.Perhaps we should inite the Germans to take over.At least they would do it efficiently

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Labour were dead in the water, a leader nobody wanted, nobody voted for less popular than a fart in a lift. Getting the blame for a banking crisis, after taking us from a time of solvency and w*nking it all away on foreign escapades and idiocy.

Any party that got in were going to have to make cuts, half of me wishes to see what would have happened had labour won the election, because they could not have kept any of their promises. Strategically they're better off sat on other side slagging off everything the tories are doing, they couldn't do any better or make any fewer cuts in same shoes.

very true,
However regardless of which political party has the best polices, the fact remains that the news papers got the conservatives elected.

How many voters looks at party manifesto's? I assume very little they just went off what the papers told them. Hence shock on peoples face over these budget cuts etc

One of my friends works as a copper and voted for conservatives now he's moaning about police cuts - How the can he complain he voted (blindly) for the cuts in the election.

[Biker Biggles]

No cuts to police in Germany.Economy growing at about 3%.Balance of payments looking healthy.Some problems with having to pay for other Euro zone ineptitude but looking good for the long term.Thats got little to do with which party is in power there,normally a coalition,but has everything to do with a fifty year history of competent leadership and a realisation that home grown industry is the way to long term prosperity.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by grimey121uk

very true,
However regardless of which political party has the best polices, the fact remains that the news papers got the conservatives elected.

How many voters looks at party manifesto's? I assume very little they just went off what the papers told them. Hence shock on peoples face over these budget cuts etc

One of my friends works as a copper and voted for conservatives now he's moaning about police cuts - How the can he complain he voted (blindly) for the cuts in the election.

Manifesto is theory, ideals, targets.
Cuts are the result of fact.

He can complain. "Which set of c***s produced this situation to make these cuts necessary?!" etc.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Manifesto is theory, ideals, targets.
Cuts are the result of fact.

He can complain. "Which set of c***s produced this situation to make these cuts necessary?!" etc.

Yeah what I'm trying to say is;
The conservatives always said spending cut
People never bothered to read this and voted
Now they complain about the cuts and are supprised by them

I agree with budget cuts you don't have to convince me, although what is being cut is utter ****.

Less doctors and police for us tax payers yet we pay out more in benefits that we gain in income tax to all these scroungers

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by keithd

Like football its all about opinions, what say you fine minded members of the .org?

IMO, they are doing ****. But then what gov doesn't????

My opinion, very simple.