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Old 06-07-11, 10:47 PM   #21
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Matt, relays are a piece of pi55, they mainly consist of a +/- to energise it and contacts that are either n/o or n/c ( obviously normally open or normally closed)
Obviously you can get them more complicated but essentially they work the same.
I'd run most things through a relay tbh cos they handle loads better and last a long time if sized correctly.

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Old 06-07-11, 11:37 PM   #22
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Ever helpful posts from lozzo as usual.
It wasn't designed to be helpful, it was written in exactly the manner it was taken.

I hate aftermarket HIDs with a passion because not one of them works properly with the standard reflector. All of them dazzle because the light output is too great for their use and the beam given out is distorted by a reflector that is not designed for the type of illumination being thrown at it. The people who design headlight reflectors are bloody clever people who go to great lengths to design something that works with the type of bulb or unit it will be fitted with as standard, them some ignorant halfwit comes along thinking he knows better than someone with degree or better qualifications and years of experience in that field and hamfistedly throws some cheap Chinky HID unit in there and scorches every other road user's retinas.

You may be able to see fine, but everything coming the other way is blinded. My opinion of people who fit aftermarket HIDs is that basically they either ignorant of the facts because they never have to approach their own bike as it's moving up and down with the road surface, or know the facts but are selfish barstewards who'd fit them regardless of the dazzling effect.

There's a reason why they aren't legal, it's because they don't work properly. Maybe you should read what the DOT have to say on the matter.

http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafet...headlamps.html
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Old 06-07-11, 11:40 PM   #23
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that was a good comeback matt made me chuckle.
You're easily pleased aren't you?
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Old 07-07-11, 07:23 AM   #24
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http://www.vca.gov.uk/vca/additional...les/vca039.pdf

Specific to motorcycles

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Old 07-07-11, 12:06 PM   #25
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You're easily pleased aren't you?
Yea i am actually.
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Old 07-07-11, 12:20 PM   #26
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Maybe you should read what the DOT have to say on the matter.

http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafet...headlamps.html

Holy Moley!! An actual helpful post from lozzo! Thanks dude
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Old 07-07-11, 01:58 PM   #27
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The people who design headlight reflectors are bloody clever people who go to great lengths to design something that works with the type of bulb or unit it will be fitted with as standard,
Having ridden a DR in the dark I'd have to disagree!


On more serious note I actually have swapped bikes with my mate and been past each other a few times, it is no worse than any modern car. No dazzling effect unless you hit a bump or something in which case it is not as bad as Mr perfectly legal BMW/audi/merc with his portable sunlight.
It is luck of draw, some lights have nice clean cut off of beam and are no problem, others scatter like buggery and shouldn't be used. Some need adjusting down a bit. As in many things I'm more concerned with safety than the letter of legality.
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Old 07-07-11, 03:56 PM   #28
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Btw, I agree, the DRZ lights aren't great at night, I had to adjust mine as all it done was light up my front mudguard, now it's useable, just !!
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Old 07-07-11, 10:28 PM   #29
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This afternoon I asked our MOT tester what his thoughts were on aftermarket HIDs, his response was to the effect of "they are all crap. None of them actually produce a beam worth talking about, they just scatter light all over the shop and mostly not where you need it. They only appear to be better because they throw out such a high concentration of extremely bright light, but they really aren't worth fitting".

He went on to say that he's failed every bike and car he's had in with aftermarket ones fitted because all of them failed the dip/main test and none of them kept the dip on when main was activated. He said the worst sort were double units fitted to bikes where one side is low beam and the other is high - all of those type have a delay while the high beam kicks in, meaning the rider is momentarily left with no lights at all, which is enough to disorientate them in some cases.

It soon became apparent that enlightened as he may be on things like exhaust noise and smaller number plates, he hates HIDs too.

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http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=166995&page=6

Perfect beam pattern. No delay between dipped and main beam. No scatter.
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