Brakes! - Train your brain! - Teaching granny to suck eggs!

[DarrenSV650S]

I'm not saying the theory is bs. But I seriously doubt you or most people actually ride like that. It's not possible while making decent progress

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S

I'm not saying the theory is bs. But I seriously doubt you or most people actually ride like that. It's not possible while making decent progress

It's perfectly possible. Most of the time I do ride like that. A lot of police types reckon to ride like that and I'd mostly believe them, and it's a fine standard to aim for!

Sometimes I don't, when in a mood to make completely indecent progress. I call that riding like a c*** and it's very enjoyable. But I don't make a habit of it because it's riding on your luck not your skill.

But we're talking about safe riding here, so I stick with what I said. You can go very fast without breaking that rule too.

if you obey yc's rule no 1, you should never have an accident, as bikers most of us don't so we do

[andrewsmith]

Mods Sticky?

[dizzyblonde]

I'm going to open a new school


The DB riding club......with the moto
Its so slow, its actually faster than fast! Safety to speed up your reactions.





#I here the celestial laughter from high above #

There is a third option

[*]Go round a corner beyond observational limits. See cow in road. Choose your escape route, either to left of or right of cow.

Again it's brain training, teaching yourself not to panic and target fixate on the cow, and brake for all your worth whilst heading straight towards it.

But no, you can't rely on there being an escape route, so you are still riding on luck.

Riding on luck does happen, even when not riding like a penis, there are some roads near me that are 60mph limits and carry 60mph traffic, but the road is narrow, the hedges are high, and there are long bends making 90 degree direction changes, so you're in a lean and can't brake hard for 2-4 seconds at a time (I'll try to find a google streetfu). You'd need to be doing less than 30mph to stop before your limit point.

If you are chasing your limit point (as police riders often do) most of the time you can't stop in the distance you can see to be clear. I do understand what Darren means. The two concepts are a bit contradictory.

You had better explain the limit point now Ralph, for the benifit of those that don't know, or need reminding.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

How many crashes are there where a biker "comes round a corner to find a car in his path". Why was he going round too fast to stop or give the car chance to see him? Might as well ride at night with your feckin lights off!

I understand the gist of what you're saying YC, but how many, you and me, included can say they know what is around every bend ?

It's immaterial how fast, or slow, a rider takes a corner if there is something unexpected there.

The point, afaic, about this thread is learning braking techniques when you meet the unexpected.

[dizzyblonde]

gah,,,,,sorry lads, if you ride like a d1ck, yer gonna die.

Simple.


Sooner folk up their riding standards than concentrating on flippin analysis the better. This is the thing that gets folk falling off. Too much analysis on forums,
not enough 'on your own' learning.


PUURRRRllllllleeeese, just bloody ride for yourself instead of thinking online experts will help you to imortality.


If anyones offended TOuGH.

[DJ123]

Knowing what the bike can do is an important part, having trust within the bike to do what you ask of it. I have been suprised a few times at what the SV is capable of when asked to do so. Having trust and faith within your ability and judgement is also needed, knowing the boundaries of skill and talent with the current riding scenario.
Being decisive and knowing what you want to do is the key. Stick to your initial decision and carry it out safely and according to how you plan it. From the thinking of the manouvre to the execution: thinking distance, braking distance, stopping, bike control and all the other factors that comes into it.