Pray 4 Muamba

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

Why? Because perhaps that is the person he was thinking of at that time...and why not?

Honestly, just because you ask for prayers for one person doesn't mean you are not thinkng of others. I doubt fame had anything to do with this thread over and above that some people would know who it was about.

It is just a case of wishing a fellow human well, nothing more, nothing less.

I would rather give a pat on the back to someone thinking of others than criticise them for not thinking of the right people.

It's just a little humanity which is nice to see and all the posts in this thread clearly show the concern felt for others.

Yeah I guess you are right, my current loathing of the "Cult of Celebrity" probably coloured my thoughts on this a bit too much.

wowchers dave, who stole the jam out of your dohnut this morning?
Like I said in the OP "pray 4 muamba" was the slogan on Gary Cahills T-shirt, he displayed it after scoring for Chelsea. If you're not aware then Muamba was his team mate when Cahill was at Bolton and as such it was simply a message about his friends wellbeing.
My thread isnt really about Muamba and his well being, I do wish him all the best but thats just compassion for another human. The point of the thread was to see if anyone knew a reason or had incite into why this happens to althletes with scary regularity and ponder if they're been pushed too far.

I care no less for the 48 grandfarther who collapsed at the same time than I do for Fabrice, but you have to admit that its a little less suprising that a grandfarther should have a heart attack when you compear it to a young profeshional athlete.

So hate celebrity all you want mate, go nuts, Im generally in favour of the idea but dont assume this was just about hugging the limielight of someones darkest hour, like I said in my 2nd to last post if this event makes one person go get tested then its been a good thing that it took place in the public eye.

[MisterTommyH]

The 'Pray for Muamba' was on the shirt of one of his ex team mates and was revealed when he scored - so the person who initiated it was asking for prayers for someone he knew.

From there it has become a bit of a slogan, but if it raises awareness then I don't see any issue - even if most of the people who use the slogan aren't predisposed to pray.

Edit: ^^ What he said.

Personally, I feel like I know muamba a bit as I'd watched him play for brum a lot, it also hit home a big reminder ( you do forget sometimes) of something that happened to my boss at my last job.

38 years old father of two, non smoker, fit, not a big drinker, just dropped at 7.30am one morning, sudden death syndrome was the official cause of that I think.

I was due a meeting with him at 8am at another facility so got there about 7.45am and he was just being put in an ambulance to be driven away to local hospital, he never regained conscienceness (sp).

It affected me a lot tbh, life changing actually, it was then I decided to do everything in my life as quick as my budget allows.

So I really do, hand on heart, hope muamba makes a full recovery, regardless of his occupation.

[Viney]

Hes a bloody footballer ffs! Ok, yes it is a shock, but my mum had a heart attack at the beginning of the year. It happens, plenty of people have them and live. No different here. Just cant see what is so special about this bloke.

He's 23 !

People in the public eye always get more coverage on these things, but like I say I've watched him play for brum tons of times so that's my interest amongst others.

Can't see the problem tbh, if people have no compassion or interest, don't read the thread.

2 very simple significant factors which should make anyone wake up and see how shocking this thing is.

1- He's 23, not exactly your typical heart attack victims age!
2- He's a pro athlete, not exactly known for been unfit!

So if a very young and incredably fit person can be struck down with a heart attack, then no one is safe! Its got knack all to do with him being a footballer, I wouldnt care if it was a ballet dancer its still bloody shocking!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Owenski

Like I said in the OP "pray 4 muamba" was the slogan on Gary Cahills T-shirt, he displayed it after scoring for Chelsea. If you're not aware then Muamba was his team mate when Cahill was at Bolton and as such it was simply a message about his friends wellbeing.

Very nice gesture to see


So if this bloke would have had multiple medicals etc, obviously they're an investment so you would assume would have the best healthcare, what's the chances of a 5 minute screening detecting this? Surely if you're going to drop...

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Very nice gesture to see


So if this bloke would have had multiple medicals etc, obviously they're an investment so you would assume would have the best healthcare, what's the chances of a 5 minute screening detecting this? Surely if you're going to drop...

They defo have screenings, his last one was in the summer.
Spurs players were this week sheduled to have thier own annual scan which much have been pretty eye opening while they stood watching another player being resussitaed on thier pitch.
Thats just it though, they seem to be just screenings, but now its been insisted that they get full back ground checks as the gene responsible is hereditry. Im not sure if its the same one which causes HCM but it sounds to fit the bill.
Either way, if you're related to someone who suffered a heart attack at a relativly young age or were generally healthy then its proberbly worth having a check before going to run a marathon

[MisterTommyH]

Originally Posted by Viney

Hes a bloody footballer ffs! Ok, yes it is a shock, but my mum had a heart attack at the beginning of the year. It happens, plenty of people have them and live. No different here. Just cant see what is so special about this bloke.

I hate football, and spend a lot of my time slagging footballers off for the waste of space and poor role models that a lot of them are.

I don't think this is about what he does. It's about a young fit person in the public eye who collapsed and nearly died infront of a huge stadium and tv audience.

I hope I'm not being disrespectful here but to me it is different. This little known condition kills 500 perfectly healthy people under 30 in this country every year. People associate heart problems with people slightly older than that so this is a shock to people who've never heard of it. Again, if it raises any awareness to introduce screening, or get more defibs out there, then whats the problem?

Edit: Footballers will have had screening, but there are plenty of young people out there who do a lot of sport who probably won't be offered it and although 4 screenings missed it here I think that just shows how important it is. In Italy they have complusary screening and have reduced instances of SDS by 90%.