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Old 12-04-12, 07:04 PM   #21
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Default Re: Pointy swingarm side play sorted.

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How much movement is too much ?
there is always a little play from the factory. if you can get the rear wheel off the ground on an abba stand it should go 'click click' as you push it from side to side, its about 3mm in total.

when i took the swingarm off mine and had a play with the bearings and sleeves there was a good 2-3mm of side to side play as i slid the sleeves, my bearings were like new and surprisingly quite a bit of grease in there. i ground down one of the races so there was around .75-1mm of side to side play left and once installed on the bike it came to zero play and still moved up and down like silk.
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Old 15-04-12, 07:15 PM   #22
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I checked mine today and its got the 'factory play' but with alignment of the wheels spot on I dont notice it doing anything untoward.

What I did check today was the front wheel bearings. They seem fine. I noticed the middle spacer has a bit of movement not between either bearing but inside the wheel. like the diameter of the spacer is smaller than inside diameter of the tube between the bearings. Could this be the source of the grind and the sv clunk. Im sure this is,normal as the spacer play I used to help you angle the drift to remove the bearings. I noticed the grease coming out is very dark and im wondering if the spacer and bearings have dirty grease. Im thinking the only way to clean it out is to overhaul.
Im scared to start soaking the inside with wd40 to try and drain the dirty grease out because theres not much room in the spaces to repack it.
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Old 16-04-12, 03:39 PM   #23
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yes the spacer flops about inside till the spindle goes in then it gets centralised and clamped to the inner race faces so once tight it cant move. if there is no play in the bearings and not 'rough' then leave them.
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Heres how my swingarm spacer looks btw...... yes i know it's very clean in there

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Old 19-04-12, 06:17 PM   #25
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that's 1 side but what's the other like?
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Old 19-04-12, 07:05 PM   #26
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Heres how my swingarm spacer looks btw...... yes i know it's very clean in there

I could fit a credit card down mine (both sides IIRC)

(lack of feeler guages)
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there is always a little play from the factory. if you can get the rear wheel off the ground on an abba stand it should go 'click click' as you push it from side to side, its about 3mm in total.

when i took the swingarm off mine and had a play with the bearings and sleeves there was a good 2-3mm of side to side play as i slid the sleeves, my bearings were like new and surprisingly quite a bit of grease in there. i ground down one of the races so there was around .75-1mm of side to side play left and once installed on the bike it came to zero play and still moved up and down like silk.
Having read your article in full, and stupidly forgetting to ask the wise before starting on my wife's bike, I find myself confused.

If you refer to my earlier thread posted today, I thought her bike had worn bearings, and went ahead and purchased replacements.
Since starting this job I have since discovered that it is an absolute pig to remove the exhaust.

I'm guessing to do what you did, I must still get the exhaust off, but I don't quite fully understand what you mean when you say you removed material to get rid of the sideways movement.
Can you help the stupid amongst us (e.g Me) with more info?

And on a slightly seperate note, can the rear shock be rebuilt, or is it a straight swap job?

Ta very much in advance

P.S. yes it is bloody clean on the inside, just going off to get my sunglasses so I can have a proper look!

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that's 1 side but what's the other like?
Sorry mate i missed this thread and your post..........

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