Nuerosurgon/Neurology Specialist

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by metalmonkey

Well its few months since i wrote this so what has happened?

Well actually jack sh*t went back to hospital that set of doctors have no clue, so they want me to accept it, yeah thats just great when my body doesn't work.

I had an ECG casue I was in quite a lot of pain in my chest, that was casued by what was going on already that casued it, it turns out i'm more than healthy cardio vasualr wise.

Another doctor wants to redo all my test, more MRI scans, various other test and another mix/cocktail of drugs like there isn't enough junk in my body already, i threw the last lot away cause they me feel sick. Nice to know the NHS is living up to my expections.

Well, maybe jack all has happened because you haven't altered your expectations at all. LPH gave you details which are worth following up, did you? I worked for the RFU, Gloucester Rugby and Bristol Rugby and I can tell you, their physios and doctors see these kind of injuries every day, so you should email Clare's colleague and follow that route.

Apart from that, there is a general feeling from your posts that it is the doctors' fault that you are still having this trouble. I know how frustrating things like this can be, but sometimes you just have to face facts that things problems with our bodies are sometimes not fully fixable. My mum is in permanent and constant pain in the sole of her foot. Nobody knows because she has learned to deal with it. She literally walks through the pain because after years of trying to get to the bottom of it, there is no medical sign of anything wrong, so nothing to treat.

I'm not saying to give up trying to get it sorted, but just perhaps that you could manage your expectations a little better. Yes, it sucks, but you could also have far worse complaints to be dealing with.

[Messie]

GG you are able to express so much more kindly, my opinions in this case!

Chris - you dismiss some doctors opinions so throw away their medication.
Looks like there is nothing more wrong with your chest than anxiety

Try trusting them. Try believing that the medics have gone into that profession to try to do good. Try thinking that they want to help you, but that a person's health is a two way contract.

If nothing else, they want to fix you so they don't have to keep trying to fix you

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Originally Posted by Messie

GG you are able to express so much more kindly, my opinions in this case!

Chris - you dismiss some doctors opinions so throw away their medication.
Looks like there is nothing more wrong with your chest than anxiety

Try trusting them. Try believing that the medics have gone into that profession to try to do good. Try thinking that they want to help you, but that a person's health is a two way contract.

If nothing else, they want to fix you so they don't have to keep trying to fix you

I don't know Sally, you put that rather well

Chris, I can't believe I missed that you threw away your medication?????????

I honestly don't know what to say to that. Did you give your doctors the chance to tweak the medicine/prescribe anti sickness drugs so that you could benefit from them?

Did you just throw them in the bin where they can be ingested at landfill and possibly kill wildlife?

Seriously, the amount of time people spend moaning about how the NHS wastes public funding...and you are throwing that away. Some patients would give everything to get certain drugs but can't due to cost...yet you can waste that money by throwing drugs away.

I'm sorry if this offends you as I do care...hence taking the time to post advice, but I get the feeling nothing any doctor does will be good enough for you at the moment.

Seriously, give them a chance.

Cancer sufferers have to put up with chemo making them sick, weak, frail and worse...but they put up with it because it will hopefully make them better.

If you want to be better, you have to give things a bl00dy chance. If you are not willing to do that, you need to stand in front of a mirror if you want somebody to blame!

Not in the bin! Just in the pile of other meds I have, I know you need to take them back to the store so they can dealth with properly!

It does sound like i'm anti everything, that is becasue I'm so frustrated having headaches for days on end whatever you do just doesn't work. Not being able to everything I want to which is regular thing for everyone else.

I can't afford the £1000 required for private treatment, where I am supposed to find that kind of money?

I went to meeting with 4-5 doctors, in short they told me I have to live like this forever, they weren't willing to do anything else even though there are plenty of things they could do. I have sacked them off, as they are unwilling to do anything, so been sent to another doctor who is going to start over which means waiting again, which is just annoying at the very least. Why can't they just get it right the first time around? Had they done so, I wouldn't be in this situation.

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Originally Posted by metalmonkey

Not in the bin! Just in the pile of other meds I have, I know you need to take them back to the store so they can dealth with properly!

It does sound like i'm anti everything, that is becasue I'm so frustrated having headaches for days on end whatever you do just doesn't work. Not being able to everything I want to which is regular thing for everyone else.

I can't afford the £1000 required for private treatment, where I am supposed to find that kind of money?

I went to meeting with 4-5 doctors, in short they told me I have to live like this forever, they weren't willing to do anything else even though there are plenty of things they could do. I have sacked them off, as they are unwilling to do anything, so been sent to another doctor who is going to start over which means waiting again, which is just annoying at the very least. Why can't they just get it right the first time around?

Glad about the meds.

But Chris, was it 4 doctors or 5? If you've been seeing them for three years, you should know how many there are, so if you don't know, then is it possible that some of them have been brought in to assist the main doctor in determining what to do next?

Either way, there is no conspiracy to not treat you here. One doctor not taking it seriously, fine, but 4-5 doctors all saying the same thing means you need to really prepare yourself for another doctor coming to the exact same conclusion.

Hopefully, a new doctor will be able to find a way to help, but you must accept that our bodies can't stay young and healthy forever and medicine can only do so much. I have problems with my shoulder, can leave me unable to use my arm and sometimes hurts like hell, but there is nothing that can be done about it. Even if a new doctor can find a problem, he may well turn around and still say what the others have said.

Not every problem can be fixed. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can find a way to manage it and the better chance you will have of coping if you ever are offered treatment.

Have you got in touch with the physio Clare gave you the contact details for yet?

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

Glad about the meds.

But Chris, was it 4 doctors or 5? If you've been seeing them for three years, you should know how many there are, so if you don't know, then is it possible that some of them have been brought in to assist the main doctor in determining what to do next?

Either way, there is no conspiracy to not treat you here. One doctor not taking it seriously, fine, but 4-5 doctors all saying the same thing means you need to really prepare yourself for another doctor coming to the exact same conclusion.

Hopefully, a new doctor will be able to find a way to help, but you must accept that our bodies can't stay young and healthy forever and medicine can only do so much. I have problems with my shoulder, can leave me unable to use my arm and sometimes hurts like hell, but there is nothing that can be done about it. Even if a new doctor can find a problem, he may well turn around and still say what the others have said.

Not every problem can be fixed. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can find a way to manage it and the better chance you will have of coping if you ever are offered treatment.

Have you got in touch with the physio Clare gave you the contact details for yet?

I don't have the money for private treatment, thats the problem.

It was a fourm of doctors, specalist ect...They just want me to accept it not treat it which is wrong. I want to go off travelling, there is a project I know about that would make a great film. In my current state, I can't go trekking or sling a scuba tank over my back really until I can do this I won't be happy I just need to find the right experts who know who to fix and deal with this. So thats what I'm really asking and looking for.

[Littlepeahead]

Taking painkillers every day will cause headaches.

http://www.headaches.org/education/H...lgesic_Rebound

Have you tried pilates? Yoga? Bowen Technique? Accupuncture?

http://www.bowen-technique.co.uk/

It seems as though you just want to go to a doctor, get a magic pill and be better but that isn't always the case. They can only do so much. I'm currently sitting here in a cast on my left foot after cortisone injections into my achilles with a month on crutches ahead. Ironically what is hurting is the stress fracture in a metatarsel in my right foot, but there is nothing the doctor can do, I just have to put up with the pain and hope it heals itself. Being on crutches will slow the recovery but I just have to try not to think about it hurting and get on with it.

I had a torn nerve sheath and had the same symptoms as you describe with pins and needles or complete numbness. I had a check up which involved electrodes to measure the conductivity of my nerve. It was something like 50m a sec from shoulder to elbow and fingertip to elbow. It was 8m a sec over the elbow itself. I still get grief with it every now and then but physio worked rather than having nerve relocation surgery

[Messie]

Hang on - on the first post it was arms, neck, shoulder pain; now it's a headache.
The point about the meds was not really what you do with them when you don't take them - it was the fact that you don't take them or seek further advice when they give adverse reactions.
They don't necessarily want you ust to accept it; they're not against you Chris. They may be saying that there's nothing they can do. They're not magicians who can just wave a magic wand and fix you. I'm sure if they could, they would.

Why do you expect it to be fixed for you? Why are you so different from most other people? Take some of the advice from here and do some of the things people suggest to have a go at fixing yourself!

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Chris, I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall here. Just because you want something doesn't mean it is possible. A forum of doctors means they were indeed taking it very seriously.

It costs nothing to send an email to a physio, so do it. Maybe you can work out a payment plan but I can tell you, it won't cost anything near £1000.

I do understand how frustrating it must be, but your total unwillingness to accept that this may be as good as it is going to get will mean you waste a whole lot of life being angry, looking for a miracle, when you could just accept it and get on with life. By all means keep trying, but stop with the victim mentality, stop expecting doctors to be able to make it better and stop moaning about things when you yourself have failed to take steps to help yourself.

In other words, grow up a bit. Life isn't perfect, there are no guarantees that any doctor will be able to make it better, so stop expecting that.