Vfr 800 v-tec - Page 3 - SV650.org

_Stretchie_ · 16-08-12, 02:02 PM

Bloody hell, I just assumed (ass+u+me) it would be the same technology.

Ha haa, pipe and slippers, LP will batter you (then make you buy him cake)

christopher · 16-08-12, 02:10 PM

To be fair, it's not as noticeable as some people make out (or at least those I rode weren't). It is certainly smoother on the later models, and the 2004 model I rode kicked when the VTEC came in but it wouldn't unsettle me and after a decent few miles you'd ride around it knowing it's there etc.

Plus they hold their money well so if you didn't get on with it you could probably sell it for not much less than you paid a few months down the line.

L3nny · 16-08-12, 02:29 PM

The V-tec in my car (Civic type R) kicks in at 6000 rpm no matter what. That is a much more noticeable step up than it was on the VFR.

The whole pipe and slippers thing is the only thing putting me off at the moment. I think I should hang on to riding a sports bike while I am still young enough.

mister c · 16-08-12, 03:29 PM

I was offered one as a straight swap for my Daytona on Ebay.
I rang my mate at Honda who said that they are a perfectly capable bike for everything you want. He asked how many miles, when I said 44000, he laughed.
He proceeded to tell me that a major service cost just under £1000

As Keith d says the heads have to come off 3 times to do the valve clearances. Needless to say, i told the bloke no.

Luckypants · 16-08-12, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mister c

He proceeded to tell me that a major service cost just under £1000

He was stretching the truth a bit there I think. Back in the days when the VTEC first came out there were folks getting big bills like that due to the labour involved, so Honda came out with a decree to all dealers that the valve check service was fixed price at £500. I don't know what the price is these days as I have not asked in a while. The fixed price made it expensive for the valve check but cheap if shims needed changing. Dealers made money but customers were not needing a mortgage for a service either.

For the record, I don't believe the cams need to come out for the clearance check. You do the check, put in a special tool to lock in the VTEC valves and check their clearances and clearances of non-VTEC valves again. If a shim needs changing, we are into cams out and multiple clearance checks again which is time consuming and thus expensive if paying hourly labour rates. It is for this reason Honda made the edict above.

I'm happy to be corrected on the above with verified facts, but that is my understanding of the situation based on my own research into the issue.

keith_d · 16-08-12, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckypants

For the record, I don't believe the cams need to come out for the clearance check. You do the check, put in a special tool to lock in the VTEC valves and check their clearances and clearances of non-VTEC valves again....

I'm happy to be corrected on the above with verified facts, but that is my understanding of the situation based on my own research into the issue.

There's quite a nice set of pictures here:

http://members.home.nl/jfknippels/in...ances_rear.htm

They clearly show the slide pin stopper which fits inside the bucket. You can only remove the bucket to install this with the camshaft out.

16-08-12, 06:17 PM

That whole pipe and slippers thing is a load of bolox, I know I'm not a great person to be defending them as I ride like a pipe and slippers rider, but most tourers including my sprint are stupidly powerful, so go like stink.

Mike on his vfr would embarrass many a sports bike rider and he's old lol

They just cover miles a lot better IMO, oh and btw, a triple sounds just as good

L3nny · 16-08-12, 07:54 PM

Thanks mate, I'll have to take you up on that. Been offered a VFR at a good price though and I am a Honda fanboy but it may all fall through.

Just looked on Ebay and the Sprints are about the same price as the VFRs so it may be a tough decision.

L3nny · 16-08-12, 07:58 PM

Oops, just realised I replied to the wrong thread.

16-08-12, 10:46 PM

For the record, I don't believe the cams need to come out for the clearance check. You do the check, put in a special tool to lock in the VTEC valves and check their clearances and clearances of non-VTEC valves again. If a shim needs changing, we are into cams out and multiple clearance checks again which is time consuming and thus expensive if paying hourly labour rates. It is for this reason Honda made the edict above.

I'm happy to be corrected on the above with verified facts, but that is my understanding of the situation based on my own research into the issue.[/QUOTE]no keith_d is correct the cams have to come out to check the vtec valves and have to go in and out several times,up to 8 hours work,about £55 a hour plus shims and buckets,thats right the vtec valves dont have shims you put different size buckets in them,so thats about £530 +shims +buckets+a full service so we are getting up to £800 or more if you look after it like mr honda intended,
and as to mpg,just filled my vfr up,150miles,and 17liters of petrol,so thats 39.7mpg,and can get it even lower some times

16-08-12, 02:02 PM	#21
_Stretchie_ Large Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minsterworth, Gloucester Posts: 2,353	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec Bloody hell, I just assumed (ass+u+me) it would be the same technology. Ha haa, pipe and slippers, LP will batter you (then make you buy him cake) __________________ How to amuze an idiot: Look right-> <-Look Left

16-08-12, 02:10 PM	#22
christopher Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 795	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec To be fair, it's not as noticeable as some people make out (or at least those I rode weren't). It is certainly smoother on the later models, and the 2004 model I rode kicked when the VTEC came in but it wouldn't unsettle me and after a decent few miles you'd ride around it knowing it's there etc. Plus they hold their money well so if you didn't get on with it you could probably sell it for not much less than you paid a few months down the line. __________________

16-08-12, 02:29 PM	#23
L3nny Member Mega Poster Join Date: May 2008 Location: MK Posts: 2,111	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec The V-tec in my car (Civic type R) kicks in at 6000 rpm no matter what. That is a much more noticeable step up than it was on the VFR. The whole pipe and slippers thing is the only thing putting me off at the moment. I think I should hang on to riding a sports bike while I am still young enough.

16-08-12, 03:29 PM	#24
mister c Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crewe, Cheshire Posts: 2,326	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec I was offered one as a straight swap for my Daytona on Ebay. I rang my mate at Honda who said that they are a perfectly capable bike for everything you want. He asked how many miles, when I said 44000, he laughed. He proceeded to tell me that a major service cost just under £1000 As Keith d says the heads have to come off 3 times to do the valve clearances. Needless to say, i told the bloke no. __________________ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/croozenooze/ Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/colin.hughes.1213?ref=tn_tnmn Yoo Toob https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjG...eMWUx4Ud2dK-yA Last edited by mister c; 16-08-12 at 03:32 PM.

16-08-12, 06:17 PM	#27
Specialone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec That whole pipe and slippers thing is a load of bolox, I know I'm not a great person to be defending them as I ride like a pipe and slippers rider, but most tourers including my sprint are stupidly powerful, so go like stink. Mike on his vfr would embarrass many a sports bike rider and he's old lol They just cover miles a lot better IMO, oh and btw, a triple sounds just as good

16-08-12, 07:54 PM	#28
L3nny Member Mega Poster Join Date: May 2008 Location: MK Posts: 2,111	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec Thanks mate, I'll have to take you up on that. Been offered a VFR at a good price though and I am a Honda fanboy but it may all fall through. Just looked on Ebay and the Sprints are about the same price as the VFRs so it may be a tough decision.

16-08-12, 07:58 PM	#29
L3nny Member Mega Poster Join Date: May 2008 Location: MK Posts: 2,111	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec Oops, just realised I replied to the wrong thread.

16-08-12, 10:46 PM	#30
suzukigt380paul Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Vfr 800 v-tec For the record, I don't believe the cams need to come out for the clearance check. You do the check, put in a special tool to lock in the VTEC valves and check their clearances and clearances of non-VTEC valves again. If a shim needs changing, we are into cams out and multiple clearance checks again which is time consuming and thus expensive if paying hourly labour rates. It is for this reason Honda made the edict above. I'm happy to be corrected on the above with verified facts, but that is my understanding of the situation based on my own research into the issue.[/QUOTE]no keith_d is correct the cams have to come out to check the vtec valves and have to go in and out several times,up to 8 hours work,about £55 a hour plus shims and buckets,thats right the vtec valves dont have shims you put different size buckets in them,so thats about £530 +shims +buckets+a full service so we are getting up to £800 or more if you look after it like mr honda intended, and as to mpg,just filled my vfr up,150miles,and 17liters of petrol,so thats 39.7mpg,and can get it even lower some times