Why?

So essentially what we've established is simple advice first, a lot of people are noobs and you've all got shiny bikes that have only just started falling apart.

Post answered ta muchly!

Originally Posted by Jammy

Ive got to say... some of the replys ive had to idiotic newbie posts have saved me a hell of a lot of money - i'd like to think i try and tackle issues on my own now, Google + Haynes can answer most quereis anyway.

I'd like to think most people have more common sense than me though.

Most people can wash a bike without throwing it on the floor!

Also that I need a pit crew to keep my bike shiny and assembled.

[DJ123]

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no, no, no, no, no. They are $hite! on the important jobs, for instance removing the swingarm, there is no detailed explaination. There is hardly any at all, simply remove this, this, this and this and it comes off. They give more detail in how to change a fecking headlight bulb FFS. A Haynes manual has 2 positives, torque settings (even then i double check it) and starting a BBQ. I'll safely say i won't buy another one and waste my money

Get the PDF of the workshop manual.

That's usually the best way.

Manuals are no substitute for having a look, thinking this should work SNAP "oh bugger", that's how I learnt, but then as I say my old bikes are cheap and so are the parts so I can afford to bugger about and break stuff, not so much any more as once you've done something on any vehicle it is largely the same on every other!

For the basic jobs ive done, the haynes has been very helpful. But then i havent had to do any engine work or remove the swingarm for example....

And since my crash ive been drop free *touchwood

[Fallout]

Hayne's are awesome when you're new to a particular machine variant. For example, my SV Haynes was used pretty comprehensively and was really helpful. My Gixxer Haynes has been a case of open the page, skim it, get bored and then just do the job (sometimes with Nathan's help!). That's because the concepts are the same on the Gixxer as the SV, so while the bolts are in different places and things come off in a different order, it's largely the same.

Nathan, you've just done it all, so you've forgotten that it's confusing the first time you do things. I will never need to read instructions on how to rivet a chain again, but that first time I was all over that page like an OCD ferret. Now I'm a pro!

Also, don't forget, you were asking for assistance in how to use a paddock stand for **** sake. I can put a bike on a paddock stand with nothing but my left bum cheek and my right testicle. In fact, when I took the bike off the paddock stand today (yay! All work finally done, including tyre!), I had a cup of tea in my left hand, I **** yee not.

And also the noob argument has been mention before too. The SV is a perfect noob bike, so the majority of people here are noobs to riding (less than a couple of years in the saddle), so they have no experience with bike maintenance, and a fear of it killing them if it goes wrong. Plus they're mostly young, so probably have no car maintenance skills either. I could at least bring basic car maintenance skills to the bike to make things easier.

Btw, you'll be pleased to know I lost my axle nut pin. haha. I took it off to get the wheel to Ride-In bikes to sort the puncture. Came back, and it's vanished. But I'm more classy than a nail. I've replaced it with one of those bonnet-style clips from my paddock stand.

Originally Posted by Fallout

Hayne's are awesome when you're new to a particular machine variant. For example, my SV Haynes was used pretty comprehensively and was really helpful. My Gixxer Haynes has been a case of open the page, skim it, get bored and then just do the job (sometimes with Nathan's help!). That's because the concepts are the same on the Gixxer as the SV, so while the bolts are in different places and things come off in a different order, it's largely the same.

Nathan, you've just done it all, so you've forgotten that it's confusing the first time you do things. I will never need to read instructions on how to rivet a chain again, but that first time I was all over that page like an OCD ferret. Now I'm a pro!

Also, don't forget, you were asking for assistance in how to use a paddock stand for **** sake. I can put a bike on a paddock stand with nothing but my left bum cheek and my right testicle. In fact, when I took the bike off the paddock stand today (yay! All work finally done, including tyre!), I had a cup of tea in my left hand, I **** yee not.

And also the noob argument has been mention before too. The SV is a perfect noob bike, so the majority of people here are noobs to riding (less than a couple of years in the saddle), so they have no experience with bike maintenance, and a fear of it killing them if it goes wrong. Plus they're mostly young, so probably have no car maintenance skills either. I could at least bring basic car maintenance skills to the bike to make things easier.

Btw, you'll be pleased to know I lost my axle nut pin. haha. I took it off to get the wheel to Ride-In bikes to sort the puncture. Came back, and it's vanished. But I'm more classy than a nail. I've replaced it with one of those bonnet-style clips from my paddock stand.

It's all about nails mate! And as stated before I've always popped my bikes on the trailer to do maintenance, but when I asked I got clear concise advice not a shopping list of stuff to buy and an instruction manual on how to disassemble the bike and rebuild it on top of the stand, Plus unlike your fairy arsed modern bikes mine weighs near on 200kg, if I had a featherweight I wouldn't have asked I would of just had a play and figured it out on me tod!

[Fallout]

Originally Posted by Thunderace

I would of just had a play and figured it out on me tod!

That's what I did. Always a chance of doing a Jammy though.