Crazy woman attempted to knock me off

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by TCochrane

The way I saw it, she had attempted to knock me off my bike twice by that point and I wasn't happy about it. I wanted to know why she'd done that.

But, and its massive one and easier for me to type than to actually do.

1. Two wrongs dont make a right
2. By continuing to engage with the other road user in any shape or form you exposed yourself to more risk.

Sometimes its just better to take a big deep breath and let the moron continue on their way and out of yours.

I'm no saint I have got cross and verbal with car drivers. It got me nowhere as they just got into a rage and you cant reason with somebody when they are in a rage and I ended up very stressed / riding fueled on adrenalin which meant I rode like an idiot and exposed myself to further danger risk, because I wasnt thinking about what I was doing.

Once you retaliate or damage the other persons vehicle, its then easy for the police or the other person to put the blame on you as well.

IMHO ( and I dont always follow my own advice, its very difficult to control your temper once the red mist descends )

[ChrisCurvyS]

Just bear in mind the other thread currently on here-kid beeped at a car which nearly took him out, next thing the driver and his mates in the car chased him for miles trying to run him off the road.

I know it's frustrating that drivers can drive appalingly/ try and kill you with very little chance of any comeback for them but you've got to pick your battles carefully. Call me a coward but if a bloke in a branded company van cuts me up or whatever, I'll give him a beep cos I know he's insured, driving legally, probably wants to keep his job and is highly unlikely to be armed - the worst that's going to happen is a fist fight. If it's just a bloke in a normal car though I avoid confrontation wherever possible as it could be any member of the criminal fraternity and/or his mates and the bats/knives/guns they've got in the car with them-just not worth the risk.

And wing mirrors should only be kicked off tactically-ie while filtering through traffic that your target is stuck in, quickly enough for no-one to get your reg.

Originally Posted by TCochrane

On my way home from a lecture at uni just now ( it was raining ) a woman attempted to pull out in front of me from a junction on purpose with no lights or indicators on in poor visibility. I have bright white HID's and a bright orange bike so there's no excuse that she didn't see me. I was going at about 25 - 30mph.

How do you know? Do you think she just has this homicidal tendency towards all unknown motorcyclists?

I think she pulled out on you, got a fright when you swerved past and beeped, then reacted badly to it. I think this simply because I don't believe there are many homicidal women out there trying to kill motorcyclists with their Citroen C4's.

Read these....

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/...onal_blindness

http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-p...each-cyclists/

Originally Posted by TCochrane

My question is, what would you have done if you were in my position? Did I make the right choices?

You asked the question, here's the honest answer - No.

Never get into a moving conflict with a 4 wheeled vehicle when you're on a motorbike, you have more to loose than they do.

I'll admit I've rapped on a few car windows and given a mouthful in my time, but only once the vehicle is stationary. If you are moving and a driver starts getting aggressive, pull over and let them go, or open throttle and get the f*** out of there.

Also be honest with yourself (I don't care what you post on here) and ask yourself if you gave any provocation for what she did at the roundabout. Did you gesticulate back at her after she pulled out and was following you, etc?

-Ralph-

I saw her look directly at me before she pulled out. She had obviously made the decision to pull out into me.

Perhaps I didn't specify this properly, I rapped on her window while we had stopped at a set of traffic lights following the roundabout incident. We were both stationary. I don't ever recall putting myself in any immediate danger.

As your last comment:
No, after my swerve, I drove on as normal, 30mph in a built up area, I never made any gestures to her APART from the initial beeping of my horn to warn her of my presence as she pulled out - which I might add is the correct use of my horn.
This is my honest truth, you may think what you want about whether you believe me or not but you only have my word.

Following that, she then drove in front of me on the roundabout and braked heavily where there was no obstruction in front of her. She then continued to ignore me and never apologised or even paid me any attention after that.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by TCochrane

I saw her look directly at me before she pulled out. She had obviously made the decision to pull out into me.

Not necessarily IMHO, its still quite feasible that despite her looking directly at you. Or you thinking that she did. She didnt see you and pulled out not realising you were there.

Then she got the fright of her life and reacted badly / poorly to the situation she found herself in.

Originally Posted by TCochrane

I saw her look directly at me before she pulled out

I've been riding motorcycles for over 20 years, that means nothing. Her eyes looking straight at you does not mean her brain has registered the fact you are there.

Read the links I posted, understand that at junctions it's very likely a car driver hasn't seen you.

I'm giving information and advice that is intended to help you. Whether or not you listen to it is up to you.

Like Milkybarkid I'm going to unsubscribe from the thread now, as I know somebody on this thread who thinks they know better will start bitching and to be honest I can't be bothered with it.

Good luck & keep it rubber side down.

Originally Posted by TCochrane

Perhaps I didn't specify this properly, I rapped on her window while we had stopped at a set of traffic lights following the roundabout incident. We were both stationary. I don't ever recall putting myself in any immediate danger.

You specified that perfectly. But maybe you need to revisit your re-collection of what happened whilst you were moving. You should have got yourself the f*** out of the situation after what she did at the roundabout.

Originally Posted by TCochrane

As we both came off at the same exit, she opened the throttle and attempted to drive off. I don't know how on earth she thought a citroen c4 could outrun an SV... so I rode along next to her, beeped and indicated for her to pull over.

[ChrisCurvyS]

Also bear in mind - in the dark a twin headlight bike like an SV can look like a car in the distance at first glance.

Woman pulled out on me for what I think was that reason on the way home tonight-saw her coming a mile off though so had already lost a lot of speed and planned my escape route.

[Fallout]

Dude as much as this sucks she obviously wasn't trying to kill you. It's a piece of pish to take someone off their bike. She is probably completely incapable of good driving sense and judgement (hence forgetting lights and indicators) and pulled out on you because she wasn't concentrating, has no concept of speed or distance and is also self important and doesn't care. After you honked rather than accepting her fault she went mental because of her complete retardation and lack of getting any sex at home. Then on the roundabout she could've had you off easily if she was behind and came past. What she is is an utter turd of the highest order who was just 'having a go' when she braked and was trying to retaliate and pish you off for being so rude as to use your horn when she almost killed you.

Basically a pathetic specimen of gutter slime, incapable of rational thought or accepting her faults, especially when at the wheel of her car, which she finds incredibly difficult to master and therefore is constantly on her period when driving it. But she probably didn't mean to kill you! You can't change these people. You just have to get on with your own life and hope that their gene pool dies off as soon as possible.

soft person vs. hard shell, didn't we learn from the Brasilian youtube video about girls behind the wheel?

Joking aside, I know what red mist does, the missus can witness to silly things road rage can do(guilty), this sort of thing happend to me, the 5'small" mid age man came out of the car fuming after he didn't stop when I had the right of way, I stod up, 6'4" bike leathers and everything, he left sillent after asking for an apology and denting his own car door.