STOP!

Originally Posted by SteveR

If you're filtering past stationary traffic, then you're overtaking.
This is not strictly legal through a pedestrian crossing - though I guess we all do it. I certainly would not want to test the legality of this.

Well done for being able to stop.

It's only on the illegal side if the traffic is stopped for the crossing pedestrians and it's the first vehicle at the crossing.

Bear in mind, all this discussion over who would have been in the wrong, Dan did stop and good on him. I've had more than a few moments of pedestrians doing absolutely insane things and it can be difficult to save them and not end up throwing your bike down the road at the best of times.

Originally Posted by MavUK

To be fair to the kid - it probably didn't ask to be used to stop the traffic...

I don't think darwin rules can be applied here. The parent is doing the natural selection, the kid has no choice...

Stu

Well I suppose now that people are forbidden from eating their young....

Originally Posted by burner

Well I suppose now that people are forbidden from eating their young....

There go my dinner plans.

As for crazy padestrians and London, well the two go together really don't they.

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by burner

Well I suppose now that people are forbidden from eating their young....

IS that whilst driving or at any time?

If you're filtering past stationary traffic, then you're overtaking.
This is not strictly legal through a pedestrian crossing - though I guess we all do it. I certainly would not want to test the legality of this.

Good point - if there's zigzags you can't overtake - or can you. Does it really matter as long as you are safe? I guess this pushchair woman wasn't running so maybe she thought the road was clear to cross and proceeded, Sudoxe obviously wasn't going too fast and consequently braked in time. If it was wet I'm sure you'd would have been going slower to compensate anyway. Obviously if a pedestrian darts out there's not much you can do but as you said, you slowed already for the crossing and it was the right thing to do. I think near misses like this are pretty common and not too much you can do to totally eradicate it.

[ophic]

If there's zigzags then overtaking and filtering are illegal. They're put there to avoid situation such as these. Have some patience cos a copper should nick you for overtaking on zigzags.

Originally Posted by Highway Code

You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians.

Admittedly, those restrictions do cover pretty much any situation involving overtaking at a pedestrian crossing, but there are times when it's legal.

Originally Posted by ophic

If there's zigzags then overtaking and filtering are illegal. They're put there to avoid situation such as these. Have some patience cos a copper should nick you for overtaking on zigzags.

Eh, I think you should make sure you of your facts before being preachy, cos as I understand it that's not right.

If I understand correctly, you ARE allowed to filter up to pedestrian crossings as long as you don't pass the first vehicle. You're not alowed to park on zigzags, thats the main reason they're there.

[ophic]

You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians.

you are quite correct didn't mean to sound preachy anyway

they ummm... must've changed this since i did my test...

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Eh, I think you should make sure you of your facts before being preachy, cos as I understand it that's not right.

If I understand correctly, you ARE allowed to filter up to pedestrian crossings as long as you don't pass the first vehicle. You're not alowed to park on zigzags, thats the main reason they're there.

Obviously you'd be overtaking the last vehicle before the crossing if you have to stop for the pedestrian crossing but yes you can filter up to the last car - which wasn't the case in this thread but you are correct. Clearly you can't park on zigzags. So all is peachy not preachy

Originally Posted by ophic

you are quite correct didn't mean to sound preachy anyway

they ummm... must've changed this since i did my test...