Speeding BLUFF? Or am I to start worrying? (bit long winded) - Page 3 - SV650.org

10-05-05, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikageboy

sounds a bit iffy to me.

so lesson learned, if im caught in the same situation . . . deny it ? is that the correct thing to do ?

Bike advise that you remain polite, but when asked "What speed were you doing?" the correct response is, "you tell me" as sometimes an admission on your part is all they have to go on. Presumably if they ask, "Do you know how fast you were going?" You should say 'Yes', but not disclose the actual speed.

10-05-05, 11:49 AM

10-05-05, 01:23 PM

I think i actually acted fairly conservatively! I never said i admitted speeding , but never denied it.

The only question i was asked was if the bike was mine.
I wasn't asked questions about the incident or anything! The police officer seemed like a fairly nice chap, and was polite! Surely if he had any inclination as to what speed i was doing he would not have acted this way?

Thanks for everyones input so far. Much appreciated

10-05-05, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fraser01

Well said, good sir

TSM · 10-05-05, 02:57 PM

Question: Do you know what speed you were doing, SIR???
Answer: I did not take my eyes off the road as the current road conditions are adverse and beleave that the road required my full attention.. SIR.
Question: You being cocky sir.??
Answer: .........

10-05-05, 03:41 PM

Being cynical, I would suggest that when the caution was given is irrelevant. If the officers do decide to take it further they can just change their stories.

With regards to the testing the speed reading trials are usually "controlled" tests carried out on private land - last time I went to the fire service college the police were testing a laser based system on the mock-up stretch of motorway. I would think though that some on-site testing would be required when a camera is installed on a public road to ensure it is functioning correctly. However I don't believe the testing can be used to prosecute motorists due to question marks over the calibration of the device.

I would suggest it is scare tactics...although I would be concerned about signing an NIP...

As an asside, in this situation could you refuse to sign the NIP until evidence was provided? (innocent until proved guilty and all that).

AS.

10-05-05, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allseeing

As an asside, in this situation could you refuse to sign the NIP until evidence was provided? (innocent until proved guilty and all that).

Since the NIP is a Notification of Intention to Prosecute, I don't think evidence is required until the actual prosecution. All you're signing for is to say that you have been informed of their intentions and are aware of what it means.

10-05-05, 04:55 PM

If they had any prof whatsoever you we're doing 115mph you'd have probably been arrested- nearly twice the speed limit?

I think he was probably feed you some pooh - either way its to late to fret over it now, may aswell get out there and ride the thing (just in case) lol.

Being as you we're riding 2 up you could say you we're riding so smoothly and well within the limit that your passenger fell asleep, falling backwards taking you by surprise which made you grab the first thing you could - the throttle and the result 115mph, and a pillion on the deck??

Dizz

10-05-05, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Being as you we're riding 2 up you could say you we're riding so smoothly and well within the limit that your passenger fell asleep, falling backwards taking you by surprise which made you grab the first thing you could - the throttle and the result 115mph

Ha!

:P LOL

Dont think that would wash with them tho somehow!

Quote:

may aswell get out there and ride the thing (just in case) lol.

Was thinking the same, but then again i could go over the top and think "sod it, i aint gonna have a license anyway so here goes!" But then realised i only have an SV, not a 'Ghost Rider' Replica (i wish

, but then again id get a death certificate in replacement of my license(not so good) )

Red ones · 11-05-05, 05:36 AM

"Do you know why I have stopped you?"
"Was I speeding?"
"Yes, Sir, do you know how fast you were going"
"Hmmmm, heavy underestimate of actual but still slightly illegal"

This conversation goes 2 ways. The first is:
PC says, "********, I don't have an actual and I have got myself in a conversational corner, but you were speeding and I have a producer for you"
or
"Ridiculous oveestimate what vehicle is this?"
"It's a GS500"

I like the second option, the following REALLY happened to me:
"Do you know why I have stopped you?"
"Was I speeding?"
"Yes, Sir, do you know how fast you were going"
"Hmmmm, 70?"
"About 120mph what vehicle is this?"
"It's a diesel Austin Maestro"

oddly enough his next line was, "Well, you were speeding sir!"

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10-05-05, 02:57 PM	#25
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10-05-05, 01:23 PM	#23
sd1cko Guest Posts: n/a	I think i actually acted fairly conservatively! I never said i admitted speeding , but never denied it. The only question i was asked was if the bike was mine. I wasn't asked questions about the incident or anything! The police officer seemed like a fairly nice chap, and was polite! Surely if he had any inclination as to what speed i was doing he would not have acted this way? Thanks for everyones input so far. Much appreciated

10-05-05, 03:41 PM	#26
Allseeing Guest Posts: n/a	Being cynical, I would suggest that when the caution was given is irrelevant. If the officers do decide to take it further they can just change their stories. With regards to the testing the speed reading trials are usually "controlled" tests carried out on private land - last time I went to the fire service college the police were testing a laser based system on the mock-up stretch of motorway. I would think though that some on-site testing would be required when a camera is installed on a public road to ensure it is functioning correctly. However I don't believe the testing can be used to prosecute motorists due to question marks over the calibration of the device. I would suggest it is scare tactics...although I would be concerned about signing an NIP... As an asside, in this situation could you refuse to sign the NIP until evidence was provided? (innocent until proved guilty and all that). AS.

10-05-05, 04:55 PM	#28
sticky-dizzle Guest Posts: n/a	If they had any prof whatsoever you we're doing 115mph you'd have probably been arrested- nearly twice the speed limit? I think he was probably feed you some pooh - either way its to late to fret over it now, may aswell get out there and ride the thing (just in case) lol. Being as you we're riding 2 up you could say you we're riding so smoothly and well within the limit that your passenger fell asleep, falling backwards taking you by surprise which made you grab the first thing you could - the throttle and the result 115mph, and a pillion on the deck?? Dizz

11-05-05, 05:36 AM	#30
Red ones Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 1,422	"Do you know why I have stopped you?" "Was I speeding?" "Yes, Sir, do you know how fast you were going" "Hmmmm, heavy underestimate of actual but still slightly* illegal" This conversation goes 2 ways. The first is: PC says, "******, I don't have an actual and I have got myself in a conversational corner, but you were speeding and I have a producer for you" or "Ridiculous oveestimate* what vehicle is this?" "It's a GS500" I like the second option, the following REALLY happened to me: "Do you know why I have stopped you?" "Was I speeding?" "Yes, Sir, do you know how fast you were going" "Hmmmm, 70?" "About 120mph what vehicle is this?" "It's a diesel Austin Maestro" oddly enough his next line was, "Well, you were speeding sir!"