Noise polution

Look there are two ways of dealing with this, both start with step one.

Step 1:

Go knock on his door (no, there's nothing else to it, this bit's quite simple).

But now you have a choice.

Step 2a:

Explain why you're there and then punch his face. This will lead to an immediate feeling of euphoria and victory but will sadly be somewhat short-lived as your imminent arrest and incarceration for three months might just take the edge of things. Though to be sure, if you're sent to a modern penal correction facility, you'll not have too bad a time; but do comprehend that working out when not to take a shower is paramount - making the mistake of your lavatorial visit coinciding with that of Violent Violet from E Block could prove a deep experience but possibly one you could have seriously done without.

Step 2b:

Explain why you're there and don't punch his face. Apologize. Deeply and unreservedly. Usng the same degree of earnest contrition you'd normally save up for the old beak in court whilst trying desperately to hold on to your licence on the first day of summer for doing 99.99mph in a 70 limit.

Also, take him a gift. A small bottle of Scotch would be perfect. If there's a Mrs B*stard as well chuck in a box of (yuk) Milk Tray as well. And yes I'm serious. You would be surprised that once you've made him a friend for life (and if he's an old codger he'll be pathetically grateful once he knows you're not an enemy) and you ask him what way of starting your bike would suit him best, you'll soon be able to pull up roaring like a mad thing providing you give a friendly wave and ask about his roses.

Yes I know it's morally dubious (and I'm a dreadful manipulative old cynic) but trust me (at least on this occasion) it'll work like a charm.




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my god jonboy . . . . thats the best bit of advice ive heard you give to date.

why not give it a try - it dont cost much and it could make you feel a whole lot better.


option 2a is def the one to go for

Originally Posted by jonboy

Step 2b:

Explain why you're there and don't punch his face. Apologize. Deeply and unreservedly. Usng the same degree of earnest contrition you'd normally save up for the old beak in court whilst trying desperately to hold on to your licence on the first day of summer for doing 99.99mph in a 70 limit.

Also, take him a gift. A small bottle of Scotch would be perfect. If there's a Mrs B*stard as well chuck in a box of (yuk) Milk Tray as well. And yes I'm serious. You would be surprised that once you've made him a friend for life (and if he's an old codger he'll be pathetically grateful once he knows you're not an enemy) and you ask him what way of starting your bike would suit him best, you'll soon be able to pull up roaring like a mad thing providing you give a friendly wave and ask about his roses.

Yes I know it's morally dubious (and I'm a dreadful manipluative old cynic) but trust me (at least on this occasion) it'll work like a charm.

tbh talking to a lot of older people is the key. A lot of them are lonely and take out their frustrations as he is with you by complaining. A friendly chat, all be it hard for you to perhaps do, would probably go a lot further than a war of attrition between the two of you.

Originally Posted by jonboy

Look there are two ways of dealing with this, both start with step one.

Step 1:

Go knock on his door (no, there's nothing else to it, this bit's quite simple).

But now you have a choice.

Step 2a:

Explain why you're there and then punch his face. This will lead to an immediate feeling of euphoria and victory but will sadly be somewhat short-lived as you're imminent arrest and incarceration for three months might just take the edge of things. Though to be sure, if you're sent to a modern penal correction facility, you'll not have too bad a time; but do comprehend that working out when not to take a shower is paramount - making the mistake of your lavatorial visit coinciding with that of Violent Violet from E Block could prove a deep experience but possibly one you could have seriously done without.

Step 2b:

Explain why you're there and don't punch his face. Apologize. Deeply and unreservedly. Usng the same degree of earnest contrition you'd normally save up for the old beak in court whilst trying desperately to hold on to your licence on the first day of summer for doing 99.99mph in a 70 limit.

Also, take him a gift. A small bottle of Scotch would be perfect. If there's a Mrs B*stard as well chuck in a box of (yuk) Milk Tray as well. And yes I'm serious. You would be surprised that once you've made him a friend for life (and if he's an old codger he'll be pathetically grateful once he knows you're not an enemy) and you ask him what way of starting your bike would suit him best, you'll soon be able to pull up roaring like a mad thing providing you give a friendly wave and ask about his roses.

Yes I know it's morally dubious (and I'm a dreadful manipulative old cynic) but trust me (at least on this occasion) it'll work like a charm.




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Unless you knock on the door and it's the steptoe household. Where the response would possibly be to have the booze and chocolates snatched from your hands, the door slammed in your face with the sound of "**** off" coming through it.

Honestly though, sounds like a damn fine plan to me

Doesn't your neighbour ever use garden machinery ? Stuff like lawn-mowers / strimmers etc ?
Your bike useage doesn't sound unreasonable to me. I'm also amazed the police came out after this one complaint. They appear to have overstepped the mark and perhaps given you cause for complaint.

Both my neighbours love my bike - both used to ride and look at the bike in admiration and ask about it... never any complaints and one of the guys does go-kart stuff so is working on engines anyway...

And I'm moving house in a month Hope the new peeps are as friendly. Or else they'll just force me to go buy the scorpion

Originally Posted by lynw

tbh talking to a lot of older people is the key. A lot of them are lonely and take out their frustrations as he is with you by complaining. A friendly chat, all be it hard for you to perhaps do, would probably go a lot further than a war of attrition between the two of you.

It's a cry for help!

Seriously though, talking to them is the best way to start. Then, maybe together you can both work out the best way around the problem?

Second, starting the bike in garden maybe quieter as there is probably more 'stuff' to disperse the noise. Legally you're better off as well. I have experience with council's EHOs and a noisy neighbours and it's *very* hard to get them fined, even for persistent violations.

Anyway, jonboys idea is the best by miles. Nothing beats getting on with your neighbours.

Originally Posted by thor

I have experience with council's EHOs and a noisy neighbours and it's *very* hard to get them fined, even for persistent violations.

Don't blame the EHOs. Allegations of noise nuisance are a criminal (not civil) matter and they need the same standard of evidence as in any other criminal offence. The "balance of probabilities" doesn't count for a toffee.

They need corroborated, not heresay, evidence before service an Abatement Notice as the recipient has right of appeal against it. It's only when the Notice has been breached, again with the same standard of evidence, that legal procedings can be taken.

It's no secret that I work in Pollution Control and my colleagues take loads of cases each year, we get people evicted from their homes over it and we regularly seize Hi-Fis,TVs etc under Warrant from the offenders homes. We ask the Courts for a Forfeiture Order with regard to the equipment seize and then destroy it under the wheels of our landfill-site's compactor

I know what you mean, though - it can be time-consuming and sorting the problem through the legel channels can be frustrating. But that's of the legislation's making, not the EHO's.

Or you could follow jonboys advice and just go round with a few mates and **** the git

No I wasn't having a go at the EHOs, just that the system takes a long time to solve the problem.

I used to live above a restaurant that had live music most nights. I got the EHOs out at least 10 times in 1 year and the place got fined once and had been fined previously a year before that. They had engineers round and extra doors fitted but it all boiled down to the guy playing the music. He straight didn't care and would turn the volume up to whatever he wanted. The management didn't seem able (or care) to tell him not to do it.

I got so frustrated that I switched their extractor fans off once (it was on my fire escape). After they called the fire brigade because their kitchen was full of smoke (their fault for not cleaning their vents correctly) I decided just to move ASAP. I just didn't have the time or energy to kick the noise pollution office hard enough to get the restaurant properly punished. I knew the previous tennants from 5 years ago and they had similar problems and a lot of trouble getting it sorted which I didn't want.

It was Westminster council BTW.

my drive from the rear of my house/garage joins the road next to a motorbike shop.the owner lives in the flat above it. i was using my sv to go to work at 6 in the morning for a few weeks. because it has a full akrapovic system etc fitted and is a little on the loud side i tend to put all my gear on and get on the bike before starting it. i dont let it warm up at all, but leave straight away, as gently as i can bearing in mind that the bike is noisy and the engine is cold. i was approached by the owner of the bike shop complaining about the noise and telling my to push it up the road before starting it (outside someone elses house!)and being quite arsey! what really got my back up was his attitude and the fact that on many saturdays if weve got the patio doors open all we hear is him reving up his customers bikes, which is his living so i tend to ignore it. i pointed out the fact that he sells race cans to people knowing full well they are used on the road. at this point he was really ****ed off and was having a major sense of humour failure.i dont tend to use sv often to work, however needless to say when i do i now spend 2 - 3 mins warming bike up (neighbours dont mind) then i rev the crap out of it as i go past his shop. hopefully we will be moving next yr when i've finished the house!