Boycotting Esso & BP to bring down petrol prices?

[Viney]

What billy said. Its all down to the chinese and thier growth, this is pushing oil prices through the roof. This only makes more money for the UK government.

What i would like to see is some form of level playig field. For instance. Around where i live i have 5 petrol stations

Bp - 91.9ppL & 90.9ppL
Shell - 89.9ppL
Total - 90.9ppl
Esso - 89.9ppL
Sainsburys - 88.7ppL

So thats a difference of around 12 pence per gallon, why the difference especailly when you have 2 garages the same?

Also the government pulled a blinder some years ago. Lets sell petrol in litres. Ok, no problem. But, they used to increase petrol by 3-4p per Gallon, now its per litre. So a 4ppL rise equates to approx 18p per gallon.

In the US, one state raised its fuel price to above a dollar a gallon, and there was an out cry!! I believe it to be above a dollar a gallon in some states, New york being one of them, but for most its around 90-95c per us gallon (3.8L!)

Also what we have to remember, is that the US is a lage oil producing country, sitting on thier own reserves due to thier consitution, so they are also insrumental in inflating oil prices.

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

surely it's the government whose share of the profits should be reduced (ie significant lowering of the tax on fuel)?

But you'd only end up paying it elsewhere!

Originally Posted by Viney

What i would like to see is some form of level playig field. For instance. Around where i live i have 5 petrol stations

Bp - 91.9ppL & 90.9ppL
Shell - 89.9ppL
Total - 90.9ppl
Esso - 89.9ppL
Sainsburys - 88.7ppL

So thats a difference of around 12 pence per gallon, why the difference especailly when you have 2 garages the same?

The big oil companies sell through franchise stations, the owner of the franchise is probably sticking a few pence a litre to cover his costs.
The likes of BP make the 6Billion a year selling the crude oil to other producing companies, they make a fat profit getting the stuff out of the ground. Oil prices are very unlikely to drop back to $20 a barrel, the world wide demand is just too great. The clever nations like the US can afford to buy other countries oil and hoard their own knowing that in 15 years time the price will be ten-fold. Enjoy our hydro-carbons while we can, our grand children won't have the luxury!

And don't forget there is still a 2 pence a litre tax increase pending from the last budget!

Originally Posted by Viney

Also the government pulled a blinder some years ago. Lets sell petrol in litres. Ok, no problem. But, they used to increase petrol by 3-4p per Gallon, now its per litre. So a 4ppL rise equates to approx 18p per gallon.

Same with decimalisation and indeed the introduction of the Euro in the rest of Europe. These changes are made more or less slight of hand and the government is happy to be part of the whole crafty scam.

In the US, one state raised its fuel price to above a dollar a gallon, and there was an out cry!!

As I said earlier, we're a bunch of mugs . Two world wars have deleted the gene pool of that old British spririt leaving us with spineless self-serving politicians that we're tacitly happy to accept. Which is why as a nation it's almost inevitable that it's downhill from here on, possibly reaching the sorry state of a third world country in thirty years time.

Okay, rant over


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[BillyC]

I think all gas prices in the US must be way above the $1/Gal mark. They were just under in November 2001 when I was there last, and theat was the lowest in quite some time! I'm guessing they're about $1.50 at the moment.

The US does have large oil reserves, but imports most of it's needs. It's own oil reserves will last the country about 20 years when they tap into them - after using everyone elses.

Some more facts/corrections of figures:

1. A gallon of gas/petrol in the US is about $2.50. This equates to 36.7p per litre (3.785l in a US gallon, £1 = $1.80)
2. The current prince of a brent crude is around $66, to reach the same price as the oil crisis of the 1970s it would have to reach $75 mark
3. There are 42 US gallons in a barrel of oil, 19.5 of which can be distilled into petrol/gas (this is a very dodgy assumption, differnt types of barrels of oil WILL yield different amounts of petrol/gas). Which at current prices, minus distillation & transport costs, will be a cost of $0.42 or 23p a litre
4. UK Fuel duty is at 47.1p at litre, Fuel has also VAT added to it at the pump.

You may continue ranting...

Originally Posted by Mariner

The big oil companies sell through franchise stations, the owner of the franchise is probably sticking a few pence a litre to cover his costs.

Sainsbos at Telford is ALWAYS a few pence cheaper than Sainsbos in Shrewsbury. I challenged them on this and they said it was because of 'regional variations'. I told them that there was no way that this was a cause, rather it's an effect, and even so as the PFSs are only 13 miles apart it's not going to make any difference, and also that if I bought a cabbage in either shop I'd expect to pay the same. They had no answer.

Originally Posted by Cazza

Got this on an e-mail.

Reply and ask something original.

Every year when the prices start to go up this one does the rounds.

Fuel TAX

Here's an idea how about people stop voting for the f**king socialist governments in the first place. ?

The reason us folks with money to spend on petrol and motoring in general are getting fleeced at every turn is 'cos we're easy targets. They have plenty of excuses:

War
safety (The politically correct get-out clause)

I don't suppose it will be long before they introduce:

Single parent fuel tax relief
Petrol allowance for the unemployed
Government state paid motor insurance/vehicle duty etc..

The government is so cr*p at balancing the books they try to convince us that all the money they rake in is going into schools and health but bollox it does, it goes towards keeping all the lay about Scum in the mannor to which they have become acustomed to.




The views expressed in this thread are merely ........ and do no represent the views of either SV650org or its members.

They are looking at introducing Disabled fuel tax relief. Now I have a friend who's badly disabled and I have to help him with his wheelchair, getting him in and out, when I take him out places. He gets disabled benefit, help with this, help with that. Yes sure he's got it tough (no longer being able to lead a normal life because of MS) but why should he get more benefits than anyone else that's unemplyed etc?

And get this, the proposed tax relief will be the same for someone who's disabled that's earning 100k a year (yes I know there aren't many but you get my point).


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