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Old 30-01-06, 08:34 AM   #21
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IS A SV1000 (K3,4,5) LESS JERKY THAN A SV650 (K3,4,5) AT LOW SPEEDS ?

(ie: when you're turning at 20mph, 2000rpm, close throttle, than open again just a little...)

You could always try slipping the clutch, works for me.
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Old 30-01-06, 12:28 PM   #22
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It seems the riding experience with the thou is excactly as I thought, so it remains only the basic question:

IS A SV1000 (K3,4,5) LESS JERKY THAN A SV650 (K3,4,5) AT LOW SPEEDS ?
With the greatest of respect this sounds like a technique problem - V-twins are naturally "lumpy" and have a completely different low-speed characterisitic to an inline four.

As suggested, slightly slipping the clutch might well help, but there's no substitute for a sensitive throttle hand.


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Old 30-01-06, 12:33 PM   #23
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It seems the riding experience with the thou is excactly as I thought, so it remains only the basic question:

IS A SV1000 (K3,4,5) LESS JERKY THAN A SV650 (K3,4,5) AT LOW SPEEDS ?
With the greatest of respect this sounds like a technique problem - V-twins are naturally "lumpy" and have a completely different low-speed characterisitic to an inline four.
Not neccesarily. Badly setup tps or unbalanced throttle boddies could be a contributing factor.

A remap can also smooth things out nicely too.
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Old 30-01-06, 12:49 PM   #24
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I remember when I got my SV after having a Bandit. I had a couple of real scares on mini roundabouts but I don't have a problem with it anymore. Not sure what I am doing as it is subconscious. I assume I am either more precise with the throttle or am slipping the clutch.

Not sure if it is the latter though. I remember after my scares that I did freewheel on the clutch around a few mini roundabouts but found that I had less control that way. Maybe it is a combination of both clutch and throttle.

So long as the thou is no worse it wouldn't put me off buying one.
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Old 30-01-06, 04:06 PM   #25
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You could always try slipping the clutch, works for me.
Yes, some friends of mine with the 650 use the same technique...but I don't like slipping the clutch while turning...it makes me feel unsteady...
I prefer maintaining (and feeling) full traction by handling the throttle very carefully, but it drives me nervous after some slow turns. I feel the rear wheel is always ready 'to go' (and me to fall down) if I'm less than 'perfect' in opening the throttle with care...it's stressing! Well, it never happened, but that's my sensation...
of course only in mini roundabouts.
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Old 30-01-06, 04:40 PM   #26
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You could always try slipping the clutch, works for me.
Yes, some friends of mine with the 650 use the same technique...but I don't like slipping the clutch while turning...it makes me feel unsteady...
I prefer maintaining (and feeling) full traction by handling the throttle very carefully, but it drives me nervous after some slow turns. I feel the rear wheel is always ready 'to go' (and me to fall down) if I'm less than 'perfect' in opening the throttle with care...it's stressing! Well, it never happened, but that's my sensation...
of course only in mini roundabouts.
what you need here if some off roading. Getting used to the back end buggering off for a little sideways jaunt is something thats best learnt on dirt.

And, coincidently, a HELL of a lot of fun
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Old 30-01-06, 04:46 PM   #27
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My old bike was totally decrepit; it had a knackered accelerator cable, grip, engine, gears, everything, which meant if I didn't handle it totally carefully, it would jump and clank around everywhere. Moving to my sv has been a dream compared to the old bike! All you need is careful throttle control, a touch of rear brake, and slip the clutch a tiny bit if going VERY slow.

If I can do it, anyone should be able to
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Old 30-01-06, 06:13 PM   #28
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It's a twin, it feels like a twin and it works like a twin.

Being as it's a twin, (did I mention that?), the power pulses are apparent and at low engine speeds can be some appreciable distance apart, this might be the jerky you're referring to, if so you need to learn to ride it right, which is to say, at low speeds keep a constant, slightly positive, throttle, and use the rear brake to control speed.

Engines with less cylinders will always feel less even, particularly at low speeds, than engines with more cylinders, this is never going to change it's a feature of the engines firing pulses being less, and less often, as such any criticism of this is not necessarily realistic, but whatever, a twin is a twin and is going to feel like it.
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Old 30-01-06, 07:16 PM   #29
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Jonboy wrote:

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there's no substitute for a sensitive throttle hand.
Isn't that what the actress said to the bishop?
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