Guns 'n' Roses to headline Download festival

Originally Posted by northwind

Do Tool qualify for new metal? Have you been asleep for ten years?

Ah go away out of that will ya
Bitta Lateralus there for the lads. Top notch.

Just bought the New Pornographers Ablum. Quite loike it.

(Just thought I'd throw in that tip there, what with you liking Tom Waites and therefore having taste and all.)

I suppose I have to buy Arctic Monkeys offering. Since everyone in England has.

I'd say Tool are in no way nu-metal seeing as they are actually good :P

[northwind]

Ah, all very cool to slag nu-metal, but Linkin Park had 2 great songs (With You and In The End. In the end had it all, piano intro, really quiet middle eight...) Mind you, 2 albums, 2 songs, it's not a great hit rate.

Been thinking about it, there's practically nothing new and heavy that impresses me but there's lots that's new and less heavy that I reckon's fantastic. I'm going to get poked with the emo stick for this, but Biffy Clyro, Muse, Hell is For Heroes, Hundred Reasons, Skindred, My Chemical Romance, all very very good indeed IMO. Particularily Biffy, Muse and Skindred. (I lost some respect for Hell Is For Heroes when I heard "The Shape of Punk to Come" by refused and realised how much they'd ripped them off.)

Prefer Downing Pool and Mudvayne myself but would love to go to the Milton Keynes festivale to see Alice Cooper.
Takes me right back to my youf

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[northwind]

Drowning Pool were good. Are they still going without Dave Williams? I thought they'd called it a day. (I was lucky enough to see him, some geezer from some other band, and Benji Webbe from Skindred all take the stage with Ill Nino at Donington to play a cover of Sepultura's Eye For An Eye. That was rather good )

I hear Motley Crue are supporting G'n'R in Ireland... So it seems pretty likely they'll be on the download bill too.

yep still going Ryan McCombs now doing the vocals are in the Gulf at the moment hope they get over here on the way back
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Ah Mudvayne are pretty good. But classic Sepultura would rule at download! Not sure if they are as good with Derek Green, I'm sure we all agree Max was the best!

Originally Posted by Warthog

Ah Mudvayne are pretty good. But classic Sepultura would rule at download! Not sure if they are as good with Derek Green, I'm sure we all agree Max was the best!

agreed

Saw sepultura in glasgow about six months before they split, then saw Soulfly and sepultura(b) play the metallica milton keynes thing in.....99?

suffice to say, Sepultura before: gods gift to metal, sepultura(b) and/or soulfly after: lacking the bits the other band had

but these days, death and black metal have crawled out of the shadow of Count Grishnak (sp?) and combustible churches, so at least we got something

[northwind]

Seupltura with Derrick still wee all over Soulfly with Max though How anyone can be that metal, and still called Derek, I'm not sure...

Halonic, have I got this right? Sepultura at the Big Day Out with Metallica, then Soulfly at the Ozzfest at MKB? I was in a really sorry state at the Big Day Out- Symposium on the secnd stage, Sepultura on the main stage, then Pitchshifter on the second stage, with about 2 minutes between each. I could've happily gone home after that, I'd had my money's worth I reckon

Wheras Soulfly... Only thing I can remember from their MKB appearance was, funnily enough, Refuse/Resist and Roots Bloody Roots. Same went for them at the Garage last month- the Sepultura tracks were the best by miles (Beneath the Remains!)

Originally Posted by northwind

How anyone can be that metal, and still called Derek, I'm not sure...

Haha yes totally!

Interesting thing with the Count Grishnak, Euronymous, Faust etc murders and arson is that a murder max sentence in Norway is 14 years, and it happened in the early 90's so some of them are going to be released soon! Apart from Varg who escaped and held someone hostage, they don't look kindly upon that :P

Also dead right about the new Sepultura / Soulfly being not as good as seperate bands. Same can be said for Damage Plan and Super Joint Ritual (RIP Dimebag).

Beneath the Remains is an amazing album, but so is Arise and Chaos AD.

Pfff, just listening to the new In Flames album, it is weaker still then the others...