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Old 13-06-06, 02:56 PM   #21
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Everyone that I know that's tried to use Ubuntu for a home machine with games, perticularily 3D intensive ones with newer hardware, has given up after a month or so... Though it must be nice to know that your OS isn't using a tenth of your resources just by existing.
Ah yes. I dont play games. And I always forget about them existing.
The reason that Ubuntu (or any linux) might not run games brilliantly is because the game is not really compiled properly for the OS. And this would gimp things up badly.

I am not going to defend Linux games, since I know nothing about them, and what I have heard was not the Mae West.
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Old 13-06-06, 02:58 PM   #22
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Everyone that I know that's tried to use Ubuntu for a home machine with games, perticularily 3D intensive ones with newer hardware, has given up after a month or so... Though it must be nice to know that your OS isn't using a tenth of your resources just by existing.
In reality if you want to game on linux you need to use linux based games, Windows games emulators just don't cut it. After all they are trying to be something they are not, the best options are due booting to windows for games or get a console. Which will work better as they put all there resources into the game.
Personally I see the PC game market fizzing off with the latest releases of consoles.

The last Linux game I tried was Enemy Territory (bit like CS/BF1942) worked well even on my old PC.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:01 PM   #23
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Can open...... worms everywhere!

I have to agree with this to a certain extent. For average home user who wants to browse the net, play games and have their children type up their homework... Windows is the way go.
But by using Windows you are in reality wasting Windows on these simple tasks... and Windows is also using more resources then you need thus wasting the power of your PC...
The only thing that really pushes it on that list is games... but you might as well get a console for that. Much easier to look after, replace, move about, even I'm going the console root.
Not a console person. PS2? Pah. Rerelease every game incrementally, getting progressively better graphics and worse gameplay. Xbox? Repackaged PC games but i get a clearer picture on the PC and its far more flexible. Nintendo? Might consider the next one, depends how well the controller gets used.

Plus playing a console means having access to a TV without the nipper taking the controller from my hand.

Nope. Much prefer playing FPS, flight sims, RTS games on my superdooper games PC. It also serves as a Fileserver, Print Server, Web server, FTP Server amongst other things. Concurrently, with ease, i might add.

I've been the Linux route, but the software support is lacking in all areas. Very few products you buy comes with supporting software for linux. Any software i want to buy off the web is usually restricted to Windows. As the OS matures i'll reconsider but as it stands its still a minority OS.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:01 PM   #24
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Tried Ubuntu but the installer didnt work for alot of the stuff I wanted and i got too impacient to try and sort it out.

I work all day supporting computers, getting home and trying to figure out whats wrong with mine isnt something i enjoy doing... so i dotn bother anymore :P
Its like anything. If you dont need Linux, alright. Thats fine. If windows is good enough for you, fair enough. I find the security of Linux saves me work at this point though.

I had a bit of a time learning Linux. But, now, I find I need it. Like, I suppose, driving a really powerful bike. Once you get used to it, a Yamaha RXS100 seems a bit crap.

Linux is definately a "better" OS. For some people, it doesnt fit the job.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:06 PM   #25
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I think i would come to love it if i could get the time free to figure it out nevermind.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:09 PM   #26
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Not a console person. PS2? Pah. Rerelease every game incrementally, getting progressively better graphics and worse gameplay. Xbox? Repackaged PC games but i get a clearer picture on the PC and its far more flexible. Nintendo? Might consider the next one, depends how well the controller gets used.

Plus playing a console means having access to a TV without the nipper taking the controller from my hand.

Nope. Much prefer playing FPS, flight sims, RTS games on my superdooper games PC. It also serves as a Fileserver, Print Server, Web server, FTP Server amongst other things. Concurrently, with ease, i might add.

I've been the Linux route, but the software support is lacking in all areas. Very few products you buy comes with supporting software for linux. Any software i want to buy off the web is usually restricted to Windows. As the OS matures i'll reconsider but as it stands its still a minority OS.
But you see I don't want to spend lots of cash on a games PC to get the latest best thing... been down that route and no longer have the spare income.
As for Fileserver, Print Server, Web server, FTP Server, most users don't need it after all they are just surfin the web.
Saying that, even with only support from other forum users I managed to get Samba working (bit like moding my bike with help from this forum). Plus I don't ever recal having Windows help me with my problem, I just googled it. Or got someone who know more to help (Not something that happens alot).
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Old 13-06-06, 03:10 PM   #27
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I've tried a few flavours of linux - red hat, slackware and something else. Not very friendly or as well supported as is claimed. Tried several mac OS's and the same - irrirtating bugs that are hard or seemingly impossible to fix and you have to live with them. This is from an end user view rather than a support view though. Since windows 95 I can't see why any end user would be bothered (apart from art/design stuff being better on the mac in some cases) with anything but windows. Like it or loathe it, it's way better than the other stuff out there, and a damn sight easier to use and work with.
Can open...... worms everywhere!

I have to agree with this to a certain extent. For average home user who wants to browse the net, play games and have their children type up their homework... Windows is the way go.
Having said what I just said, I have to completely 100% dissagree with that.
For the average user, a nice Linux distro, (ahem Ubuntu/SuSE) is the way to go.
For normal things, browsing the Web, writing documents, blah, Linux DESTROYS Windows. So much better.
But, if you are a gamer, or a Designer, or an editor, or a music person, you would probably want something else.

Probably a big hulking dual core cual CPU G5 running OSX.

In a nice brushed silvery box.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:11 PM   #28
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Tried Ubuntu but the installer didnt work for alot of the stuff I wanted and i got too impacient to try and sort it out.

I work all day supporting computers, getting home and trying to figure out whats wrong with mine isnt something i enjoy doing... so i dotn bother anymore :P
Its like anything. If you dont need Linux, alright. Thats fine. If windows is good enough for you, fair enough. I find the security of Linux saves me work at this point though.

I had a bit of a time learning Linux. But, now, I find I need it. Like, I suppose, driving a really powerful bike. Once you get used to it, a Yamaha RXS100 seems a bit crap.

Linux is definately a "better" OS. For some people, it doesnt fit the job.
After-all we all had learn Windows... and so far I found the learning curve rather easy and friendlier.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:16 PM   #29
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After-all we all had learn Windows... and so far I found the learning curve rather easy and friendlier.
Yeah. True Grinch.

I learnt Linux a while back. It was a bit rough around the edges still. RedHat 6. I was also learning Perl, AceDB, and tons of genetics at the time, in a new job, in a new country. So, at that point, everything seemed hard.

Also, I didnt have the Ubuntu community available to me back then. They are really wonderful people, and will help you a lot though any problems. Not snobby. not elitist, just very nice.

Also, come to think of it, Linux, on a fundamental level makes more sense than Windows. The way things are arranged, the file structure, the whole internals of the thing are more coherent. Windows is... well, is less so.
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Old 13-06-06, 03:32 PM   #30
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Not that I executed that command today...oh no

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