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Cheers Steve
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Having experienced a blow out, 6 inch nail through rear tyre side wall at 50 mph, all I can say is that it happens very quickly and all I had time to do at the time was drop both feet to the ground hang on and coast to a stop in the middle of the road, it was a left hander, luckily for me staying up right.
I would always have this nigling doubt that possibly the fix would fail, just me perhaps, but doubts are never a good thing when you ride. Tyres are relatively cheep, buy another as soon as. The RAC man did his job and got you home, is all. |
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![]() Cheers for that Steve...all the patrols I know do their best to help and would err on the side of caution and have a Bike recovered rather than carry out a temp tyre repair if they had any doubts about how safe it would be. |
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A temporary repair has been done, nothing else. It is not the same as having the tyre removed, an internal inspection and a repair to the relevant standards done. Anyone who thinks different is a tit.
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If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst" |
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As RandyO says, tyre plugs aren't made of dynamite. In other words, when they fail you can usually expect to just get another puncture much like the first. But still, I don't like ever getting a puncture at high speeds, regardless of how small, which is why I'd get it mushroomed. It's not generally expensive, though it can be tricky to find a shop that'll do it. Once that's been done, I'll treat the tyre exactly like any other, but even though a temporary repair could well do me the life of the tyre, I'd rather not find out personally.
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Well I did, and I'm a moderator, so yes - we can*.
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If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst" |
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I've had ultraseal in my rear GSX750F tyre for several months and given it a bashing. No difference in puncture (ie not bigger or worse), still sealed.
The only difference being I don't have to put a few pounds of air in it as often as I used to cos everything is sealed better! Tested to 150mph lasts for life of tyre, oh come on chaps, you take a risk riding a damn bike in the first place, surely you aint going to start umming and arring about a flippin puncture?? If you are blatting down a lane and hit a fallen twig or rock you could be looking at an angel close up but it doesn't stop you giving that right wrist a little leverage! Fear doesn't prevent you feathering the edges of those tyres when rounding the apex of a bend with trucks passing by on the other side. You lose it that way you are squashed mate! The RAC are covering themselves against liability on the million to one chance the repair fails! If you are worried about a blow out from a neat hole puncture, I'm sure teriyakimonkey will confirm this, it won't. Tyres are incredibly tough and blowouts are caused by abuse, sidewall damage due to kerb parking, too much weight, wrong pressure, constant high speed, add them all together and you could be looking at a blowout and thats a heavy car. You are not going to get damaged sidewalls due to kerb parking on a bike. I used to make remoulds and believe me a tyre is an immensely strong piece of kit which requires serious abuse to make it blowout! Riding fast used to frighten me untill I saw how tough they were! Have you seen the abuse they take on the track and by stunt riders?? Sheeeeesh! F1 tyres blow out but they are extremely light weight and thin and under extreme stresses and temperatures....road bike tyre, different kettle o' fish! |
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Once a proper repair is done problem solved! Or ultraseal the blighter! The RAC one will do for now but if you abuse it, it may pop out!! ![]() |
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The only blow out I've experienced was on a racing cycle with very thin tyres and a hawthorn twig stuck through the 'sidewall' rounding a fast bend at the bottom of a hill and phut...down she went! Still got the scars!
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