Gold digging Ex-wives!!

Originally Posted by ArtyLady

Im offended by that remark. Ever looked after kids full time (or tried holding down a job when they are at school) have you??? ...that is all I have to say

Don't be offended - I'm sure is not personal

People will remark and generalise based on their own experiences as I did earlier. I do know women that have been stuffed by ex Husband (E.g. my wife of now!!). The fact is that ASM sums up my ex missus a treat. I would have gladly looked after my kids but access was curbed to the min which again I couldn't afford to do anything about. If she had of relented and given me more access her CSA maintenance would have been reduced and she was too greedy for that. Even now she only works parttime. She sold the ex-marital home and moved back north into a nice flat with no mortgage!

My wife of now (the light of my life incidentally) has more criticism for women than for men in divorce - and she was well skimmed by her ex who hasn't paid a penny for 15 years towards his kids. We have effectively raised two families but worth it!

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

I wrote a pre-nup type agreement before I moved in with my girlfriend, never mind before we got married. Personally, I think you'd have to be insane (or just very, very naive) not to, these days.

I don't blame you for doing this at all. The issue of assets which you have prior to the relationship is a tricky one, esp if one party has much more than the other.

TBH I don't really think it's fair when people have only been in short relationships but then lay claim to everything the other person has built up in 40 years or so...

I blame everything on Ray Parlour.

Anyone not in the know, feel free to Google.

Originally Posted by ASM-Forever

If i directed that remark at you, then you would possibly have every right to feel aggrieved. As i didn't tbh i think you're being excessively sensitive!

I got the impression you were refering to mothers in general (of which I am one) - if not then who were you referring to?

Originally Posted by ASM-Forever

On occasion i've looked after friends/families kids. Whilst i accept this is nothing like being a full time parent, the whole "looking after kids" argument is the biggest con going. Working a full week+commuting or looking after the kids....i know who gets the better deal.

exactly - "ON OCCASION" so how could you possibly know?.

Originally Posted by ASM-Forever

The whole argument is based on on the assumption, that all kids are complete terrors.....like something off 'Supernanny'. Thats far from reality in my experience.

Its hard work (terrors or not) due to very concept of the job description "caring for/on duty 24/7", unless youve done it for several years - try 18 - then IMO I dont see how you can have any idea.

Originally Posted by ArtyLady

Im offended by that remark. Ever looked after kids full time (or tried holding down a job when they are at school) have you??? ...that is all I have to say

Yep thats pretty much my thoughts on the matter. (and no i am not being over sensitive you are just a knob!!)



Where i work, although they have to pay maternity leave, i will most likely be pushed out of a job or made harder for me to go back once i do go back!!

I don't have kids yet, but i find views on this offensive as a few people are branding all women with the same brush... at the end of the day it will be a decision made by me and my partner what we do, and i will never make the decision about staying home to look after the kids on my own. Each situation is different and private and you are completely out of order accusing every woman as being gold diggers!!! I will be back to work as soon as i can after we have kids as i don't think i could stay at home all day, i'm not the house wife type, but hopefully by then i will have my business set up anyway so it wont matter. I like to have my own money and will never be totally dependant on my other half as its something i have never felt comfortable with.

I haven't read the article you are talking about but then i don't read the papers anyway, esp. Daily Mail!! So you got to look at the stories that get printed in there... usually the footballers wives types that don't deserve anything as all they do is spend husbands money, and don't actually contribute in any way.

The stories of women who give up a career or put it on hold whilst they raise the children to school age so at least they can go back to work for 6 hours a day, collect the kids from school, come home and clear up after them and make sure they are fed and dinner is on the table, put them to bed so hubby can have a quiet evening after a "hard day" at work, are the ones that actually deserve something when the marriage goes downhill, when he runs off with someone younger. But these stories don't get printed as they are not headlining news.

Looking after kids is not easy, especially when they reach the walking age as you can't stop for one minute just incase they get into some trouble... if my neice is anything to go by then it is non stop all day, until she takes a knap in which case you can clear up after her and get some things done. Ok so the woman can look for child care, but many women can't afford it and would you want to leave your baby with someone all day!?! Not only that but if you can get up at stupid times of the night as you are the only one who can feed her (unless men can breast feed??) and then go to work the following day... and then after looking after the kids when you finish work, and do all the other stuff that a mother does... and you can still tell me that it is easy, you should let us know how you do it so i can let my sister know!!

question which is related,

we all know the CSA or whatever it is called now absolutly hammers blokes for money, of which the (stupid) women dot realise is that the dont see all that is taken.

Anyhow would the CSA persue an absent mother who earnt a fair bit as much as an absent farther??

Me and my Mrs have always said that if the worst happened and we split that who ever got custody would set up a personel agreement that is much fairer than the CSA's.

and i have also stated that again if she tried to screw me over payments then i would just move abroad where they cant get the payment of you

oh and Skint sorry mate for bringing up bad memories.

Originally Posted by Samnooshka

accusing every woman as being gold diggers!!! I!!

Honestly i think it is im most womens nature, they all seem very nice untill divorce then want everything from the bloke.

I am surprised there are not more "accidents" involving divorced gold diggers!!

Women will always go wit hor stay with an ugly rich bloke!

Prime example Wayne rooney.

Do yo ureally think Colleen would still be with him if he was a normal bloke??
She loves him i am sure but i bet the lifestyle he keeps her in and introduced her to means she isnt going anywhere ever!!

Originally Posted by neio79

question which is related,

we all know the CSA or whatever it is called now absolutly hammers blokes for money, of which the (stupid) women dot realise is that the dont see all that is taken.

Anyhow would the CSA persue an absent mother who earnt a fair bit as much as an absent farther??

Me and my Mrs have always said that if the worst happened and we split that who ever got custody would set up a personel agreement that is much fairer than the CSA's.

and i have also stated that again if she tried to screw me over payments then i would just move abroad where they cant get the payment of you

oh and Skint sorry mate for bringing up bad memories.

Yes they will persue the absent parent for money regardless if it is mum or dad!

My mum has a personal agreement with my brothers dad that he pays support directly to my mum to pay for his keep including food, school trips, uniform, after school stuff etc. (My mother works btw and has a very successful business but it takes 2 to make a baby and why should she pay for everything).

The CSA take a large chunk of the monies paid, and the parent doesn't recieve everything... the personal agreement works better for my mum and for craigs dad as he is paying less than if mum was to go to CSA for the money and obviously she is getting more money as there is not that 3rd person involved.

If people sorted things out between them amicably then there would be no need for the CSA... it is there for the extreme cases where the parent wont pay for their child (or their share of the responsibility for the child). However it doesn't help when the father/mother refuses to work as the CSA is after them. My step dad was refused access to his kids when he divorced his wife, even though he was the one who had done nothing wrong and it was her who had run off, she stopped him seeing his kids, and instead of trying to work things out personally, she went straight to the CSA and they wanted to claim more money than he could afford, after he had paid his rent, and bills etc he would have ended up with -£50 a month!!

Originally Posted by neio79

Honestly i think it is im most womens nature, they all seem very nice untill divorce then want everything from the bloke.

I am surprised there are not more "accidents" involving divorced gold diggers!!

Women will always go wit hor stay with an ugly rich bloke!

Prime example Wayne rooney.

Do yo ureally think Colleen would still be with him if he was a normal bloke??
She loves him i am sure but i bet the lifestyle he keeps her in and introduced her to means she isnt going anywhere ever!!

Is this post serious?

Originally Posted by neio79

Honestly i think it is im most womens nature, they all seem very nice untill divorce then want everything from the bloke.

Erm... its not in my nature and not in the nature of a few women i know!! I was with my ex for 4 years and when i found out what he was doing behind my back i didn't ask him for anything and just left him... even though we had both bought things together and built up a home together.

Also wasn't Coleen with Rooney before he became famous???