Menezes health and safety hearing

Menezes was found to have traces of cocaine in his body.

Originally Posted by The Basket

Menezes was found to have traces of cocaine in his body.

Not meaning to sound rude but what does this actually mean? I have read your other posts.

If he was high at the time then obviouly is would have an effect, probaly made him look more nervous and irrational. But it was just a trace from a previous night or two (i belive that cocaine stay in the body a short time) it dosent mean very much.

Originally Posted by The Basket

Menezes was found to have traces of cocaine in his body.

Irrelevant your Honour.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by The Basket

Menezes was found to have traces of cocaine in his body.

Yeh, i heard this on the news this afternoon and my initial reaction was "so f-ing what???"

And then i realised its just another attempt by the police, in collusion with the media, to demonise him and make him out to have been "some sort of criminal" in the eyes of the narrow minded.

I guarantee that you stop 100 people on the tube in london on the way to work in The City and you'll find most of them have traces of coke in their system. So should they all be pointlessly executed too?

What possible relevance is it to the actions of the police that are in question as to what drugs he did or didnt have traces of in his body? Why bring it up when there are just so many more important points in this case to discuss.

It sickens me that the police even have the nerve to go to court and contest this case. They screwed up plain and simple yet they plead not guilty.

Prosecution: "Did you kill an innocent man?"
Police: "Well yes...but for all the right reasons"
Prosecution: "So you plead guilty"
Police: "Errrm, well no actually. We plead innocent. We took his life but we cant possibly be guilty of doing so"

how pathetic You make a mistake the be big enough to put your hands up to it and deal with the consequences eh?

[northwind]

Originally Posted by The Basket

Menezes was found to have traces of cocaine in his body.

Just as well they shot him then, god knows what would have happened next.

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

Dogs chase sticks I can't resist That can only be a justification if you're prepared for it to be a justification for the immediate execution of everyone who's owned up to minor infringements in this thread. That thread is full of people who've been drunk and disorderly, ****ed up against cop cars, been in posession of controlled substances, etc - ie. far more likely to wind up receiving 11 bullets but none of them did. My point is that if every one of those minor infringements resulted in a death people wouldn't be trotting out the "you break the law, you pay the price" line; as such if the argument is not valid when applied to all such cases then it's not valid when applied to one individual case.

F@@k. I'm in that thread!!!

*runs to buy a whole variety of protective body armour and hide*

Originally Posted by Pedrosa

Irrelevant your Honour.

Just stating a fact. I am amazed that the idea that someone who has and uses cocaine is everyday.

Look...the Met did wrong. Someone deserves to be found at fault. But this is far more. This is about anti police views. And this is a stick to beat them with.

The police role is a thankless one and necessary. And I will support the police in general...although it is obvious in this case, a huge error of judgement happened.

Originally Posted by The Basket

Just stating a fact. I am amazed that the idea that someone who has and uses cocaine is everyday.

Look...the Met did wrong. Someone deserves to be found at fault. But this is far more. This is about anti police views. And this is a stick to beat them with.

The police role is a thankless one and necessary. And I will support the police in general...although it is obvious in this case, a huge error of judgement happened.

I doubt he used it everyday - it stays in the body for weeks iirc. Even if he did it's still irrelevant.

If this was a case of one tragic mistake then perhaps you could sympathise. But it wasn't, it was a catalog of serious blunders by several incompetent officers. And while the Met, astonishingly, refuse to accept the blame I can't exactly see them genuinely trying to improve their procedures.

Originally Posted by The Basket

The police role is a thankless one

I woldn't thank someone who shot an unarmed, innocent man on a tube train. If they suspected he was guitly they should have confronted him before he entered the station - it wasn't like he wasn't under surveillence!

The words "Scape goat" spring to mind...

*goes back to hiding in the corner*